New To Forum, I have a gun.... 357 Magnum Transitional Postwar

Tony, there's a book by Robert Neal and Roy Jinks called Smith & Wesson: 1857-1945 that has detailed appendices listing the changing patent date blocks you find on S&W gun barrels. Other than patent dates, which do not appear after WWII, barrels usually feature the S&W name on one side and the chambering on the other, usually ending with the abbreviation CTG for cartridge. Some postwar revolvers have model numbers stamped on one side, like Highway Patrolman or Model of 1955. The details of these are best learned by observation.

There are also varying forms of rollmarks on the frames, and the distinctions that can be drawn often allow one to make a fairly accurate guess at a year (or short range of years) of manufacture. Again, there is a bunch of illustrative material in the forum archives.

For .38/44s, check out the website that 1Aspenhill maintains for the Heavy Duty; the link is in the signature to every one of his posts. There is no similar web site for the .38/44 Outdoorsman, which is the adjustable sight version of the Heavy Duty, but lots of people on this forum love that model and you can get good info just by asking a question.

The Outdoorsman is almost always found with a 6.5" barrel. In the prewar years, a few were made with five-inch barrels and gold bead front sights as special orders for famed sharpshooter Ed McGivern. A very few special orders are reported with longer barrels. I don't know of a single Outdoorsman that was ever delivered from the factory with a barrel shorter than five inches, but some here may know of specimens.

Afterthought: I don't know how familiar you are with the entire S&W line, but don't confuse the .38/44 Outdoorsman (which is built on the company's large N frame) with the K-22 Outdoorsman (which is built on the mid-size K-frame). At the time these models were introduced in the early 1930s, each was intended to be a premium target revolver, and each was built on the next larger frame size compared to the .22s and .38s that had been produced previously.
 
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Hi
before you spend 50 dollars for a letter call the factory and ask for roy jinks If you give him the serial number he will be able to tell you if it is a Transition 357 or a 38/44 Outdoorsman.
My guess is it is a Outdoorsman cut down.
the outdoorsman and the 357 Transition are all in the 71xxx range.
And I am the keeper of the Data base of the 357 Transition guns.
Jim Fisher
 
Are there any markings on the grip frame?
Bill

Yes I took the grips off at a local gunsmith earlier this evening and had him look it over, and he is fairly puzzled, said it is a very unique piece.

Under the grips there are a couple letters and numbers.

On the left side, towards the bottom front of the grip area there is an "S"

On the right side down at the bottom where the dowel pin is, just in front of it is the letter "B", then in front if it on the other side of the spring is the number "7", and directly below the pin on the right side is a very small number "6".

That is all that is under the grips on the frame.

Thanks
 
Hi
before you spend 50 dollars for a letter call the factory and ask for roy jinks If you give him the serial number he will be able to tell you if it is a Transition 357 or a 38/44 Outdoorsman.
My guess is it is a Outdoorsman cut down.
the outdoorsman and the 357 Transition are all in the 71xxx range.
And I am the keeper of the Data base of the 357 Transition guns.
Jim Fisher

Thank you for that advice Jim. I will be certain to ask for Roy. I greatly appreciate that information,
 
Thank you also DCWilson. I will look at that website as well. I am really enjoying my research, and am learning a lot from all of the responses I am getting.

Great great stuff.

Thanks
Tony
 
Be for warned, it does get pretty addictive, the hunt, research and all that comes with collecting these fine firearms.
 
A belated welcome to you.... And concurrence that this is indeed a desirable and attractive piece. It mimics the general look of the later, and highly admired, Model of 1950 .357 Magnum. Yet it has, apparently, a history of considerable ingenuity in its journey to this present state.

We look forward to your completing the info loop back to this forum when you can glean further details from the source.

As always, should you decide to shoot it, we appreciate range reports. If the gun is tight and the .357 chambering confirmed and cleanly done, I would personally not shrink from present day, ordinary .357 loads [others will clearly differ on that!],

Regards, and thanks for sharing,

Dyson
 
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