No carry work?
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cgt4570
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"Tis better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6". Do they have metal detectors? Risking loss of life or loss of job is a choice many of us have to make every day.
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Quit and find a workplace that respects your right to self defense.
dubshooter
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At my place of work, I feel the need to carry a gun to keep me safe.
Luckily, my employer provides me a few to carry. Couple in the car, one on me, and I take a spare in my pocket.
Luckily, my employer provides me a few to carry. Couple in the car, one on me, and I take a spare in my pocket.
Genetically Swiss
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I work in a Federal building, no firearms or knives with blades over 2". Not in the building or the grounds which includes the parking lots. Metal detectors, x-rays and armed guards in the lobby we all must pass through to get to our offices. The Federal building I work in includes a superior court, IRS, VA, FBI, Marshals service and Department of Energy.
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Rpg
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Look for a different job.
When you find a new job, then quit the job you have.
Do not quit before finding a new job.
Ivan the Butcher
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In Ohio, the last set of CCW updates allows to keep a loaded CCW in the car. That is a huge improvement over what we had before!!!!
Ivan
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To make a long story really short, I respect my employer's right to tell me that I can't carry a firearm on my person on the clock. I DO NOT recognize my employer's right to tell me what I can have in my car unless I'm using it for company business on the clock.
I'm currently working an unarmed position so for me to have a firearm on my person would be a violation of company policy as well as city ordinance. The company has no policy against leaving a firearm in your vehicle that I'm aware of and I'm not going to ask them about it.
When I worked for HSS the policy for unarmed guards was that you couldn't have a firearm on Client property without written authorization from the client AND HSS IOW no firearms even in your car on the clock. I ignored it. My car my rules
When I worked for G4S the written firearms policy really only covered what you could and couldn't do with their gun. As far as personal Firearms it was really non-existent. I actually had a couple supervisors put me on unarmed positions and tell me if I wanted to bring a gun it would be okay. I didn't say a word but I knew that if anything happened with that firearm if they would hang me out to dry and say they never told me I could have it.
So like I said unless you're paying me to carry a gun at work or you specifically give me a written authorization to carry a gun at work I'm not carrying a gun at work but my car is my car and unless you're paying me to use it for company business what's in it is none of your business
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I'm currently working an unarmed position so for me to have a firearm on my person would be a violation of company policy as well as city ordinance. The company has no policy against leaving a firearm in your vehicle that I'm aware of and I'm not going to ask them about it.
When I worked for HSS the policy for unarmed guards was that you couldn't have a firearm on Client property without written authorization from the client AND HSS IOW no firearms even in your car on the clock. I ignored it. My car my rules
When I worked for G4S the written firearms policy really only covered what you could and couldn't do with their gun. As far as personal Firearms it was really non-existent. I actually had a couple supervisors put me on unarmed positions and tell me if I wanted to bring a gun it would be okay. I didn't say a word but I knew that if anything happened with that firearm if they would hang me out to dry and say they never told me I could have it.
So like I said unless you're paying me to carry a gun at work or you specifically give me a written authorization to carry a gun at work I'm not carrying a gun at work but my car is my car and unless you're paying me to use it for company business what's in it is none of your business
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wingriderz
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Only you can decide what's best for you. I personally dealt with employers that had a no firearm policy for years. These employers left myself and staff at great risk.I carried every day . They never ever had a clue. I always used the don't ask don't tell method. If the question of guns came up I used the " Guns " aren't those things dangerous ??.Be safe and smart.
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I would say it depends on the level of risk, and the penalty involved. If you attend school in a low threat environment (yes, I know you can't always be sure), you may want to consider a less than lethal and permissible method such as pepper spray. Depending on your location, the consequence of carrying may range from "please go secure that in your car" to "you're expelled, don't ever come back and by the way the police are on the way to arrest you", so you need to take that into account. Good luck in your decision.
I worked for the Federal gov't after retiring from law enforcement and carrying a gun was a termination offense. As a GS14 w/a good job that I enjoyed it would have been foolish to violate that policy when I was busy working on a second retirement. The armed guards in my building were all retireed cops and told me, unofficially, they did not care if I carried but they liked their jobs too. Traveling was a big part of what I did and the whole airport thing was too much for me to figure out, and I was officially on the clock then too. I've been fully retired since '05 and carried all the time since then.
Arik
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How do I deal with it? I don't! My job doesn't care so I carry but I've worked plenty of places where guns weren't allowed. There's nothing to deal with, it's not constantly on my mind. I just do my job and not concerned with what may or may not happen
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RGVshooter
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Told my boss, "IF" I was carrying, you wouldn't know it, unless I used it, and if I used it, you'd be glad I had it.
I guess it depends on how much you like your job. I cannot carry at work. I respect that rule. I've been with the same company 32 years, so I guess I must like it. I've only wished I was armed once - during an attempted armed robbery. A guy walked up to the pharmacy,pointed a pistol, and demanded oxycontin. He did not get any. The pharmacy tech and pharmacist both ducked behind the counter. The doors were securely locked barring him from entry, and he just walked away rather than trying to climb over. He was quickly apprehended by law enforcement, so the story has a happy ending.
One department manager regularly carried in her purse. She made a mistake and showed it to the wrong person who outed her. She was immediately terminated and arrested. Although she had claimed to have a license to carry she did not, thus the arrest.
One department manager regularly carried in her purse. She made a mistake and showed it to the wrong person who outed her. She was immediately terminated and arrested. Although she had claimed to have a license to carry she did not, thus the arrest.
There are many ways to look at this issue. Some people frequently and loudly proclaim they won't go anyplace they are not allowed to carry. I honestly find such rigid thinking rather ridiculous and negatively impacting your quality of life unnecessarily.
I wouldn't want to be a law enforcement officer without having a firearm, but working in a school is an entirely different matter. There is an old saying that shouldn't go anywhere or do anything armed that you wouldn't unarmed and it's pretty sound advice. If there is a school in the United States where shootings are actually a relatively frequent occurence, I would highly recommend not working there, but that isn't the case AFAIK anywhere and the odds of being involved in a school shooting are absolutely astronomically low.
Sure, you never know and why some insist on being armed 24/7 including while in the shower, but I think their insistence to constantly be armed probably has more to do with things like politics, hobby and their psyche than it does any realistic practical need for self-protection. If these same people are so vigilante and supposedly concerned with their personal safety, then why do they drive a car. The odds of being involved in a civilian defense shooting are miniscule compared with your chances of being in a fatal car accident, but yet they all still choose to drive.
Do as you wish, but sometimes you just have to live your life and not let irrational fears and thinking rule it.
Do you carry religiously? You may not be as safe as you believe. - www.GrantCunningham.com www.GrantCunningham.com
I wouldn't want to be a law enforcement officer without having a firearm, but working in a school is an entirely different matter. There is an old saying that shouldn't go anywhere or do anything armed that you wouldn't unarmed and it's pretty sound advice. If there is a school in the United States where shootings are actually a relatively frequent occurence, I would highly recommend not working there, but that isn't the case AFAIK anywhere and the odds of being involved in a school shooting are absolutely astronomically low.
Sure, you never know and why some insist on being armed 24/7 including while in the shower, but I think their insistence to constantly be armed probably has more to do with things like politics, hobby and their psyche than it does any realistic practical need for self-protection. If these same people are so vigilante and supposedly concerned with their personal safety, then why do they drive a car. The odds of being involved in a civilian defense shooting are miniscule compared with your chances of being in a fatal car accident, but yet they all still choose to drive.
Do as you wish, but sometimes you just have to live your life and not let irrational fears and thinking rule it.
Do you carry religiously? You may not be as safe as you believe. - www.GrantCunningham.com www.GrantCunningham.com
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