NY HOME POSESSION, RANGE PERMIT

[Camster]

Unlike some of the upstate counties, a Suffolk county PL holder doesn't have to buy or own a handgun.
Unlike some locales in the US, I can buy several handguns on the same day and have them in my possession,if I want to make the ride to PD HQ for the purchase orders.(which for me,is a bit of a schlep,as I live at the far end of the county)

 

[Wise_A]

Good point, Cam. We don't have weekly/monthly limits. Household transfers are also very easy and don't require an FFL, just a notary.

 

[Camster]

I always get a kick out of some who proclaim their state to be "free" but when you dig deeper it ain't quite so.
For instance, in NY we carried in bars all the time, not so in many "free" states.
Heck, I never paid a .01, nor "renewed" my NY permit for 30+ years besides the initial costs to get it. We always had lifetime permits. Most other states have renewal periods.
5 year recerts arestarting next year but still no fee.
No such thing as "free" when you need someone's permission to defend yourself.
ymmv

I've been renewing my Suffolk County NY PL every five years,starting from when I first got it in 1998. Bars are a no-no,though I've had mine with me in the restaurant section,on the way back from the range,rather than leave them in my station wagon in sketchy Riverhead.

 

[ladder13]

Whatever semblance of gun owning freedom that existed in NY started north of Westchester and Rockland counties.
Most counties north of that area one can obtain an unrestricted license, not one of those hunting and target shooting things.

 

[GypsmJim]

I'm a 5th generation (Western) New Yorker and proud of it. Our standard of living is great, our real estate prices low and cost of living reasonable. I was offered a move to NC with double the salary and turned it down. We are now retired on a beautiful mountainside in southern NY.

My pistol permit was issued in 1972. It took a long time back then because of the county I was in. Five years ago my wife got hers in 5 weeks and my son in 5 days. Overall, after owning countless handguns over 50 years, I'd have to say its not really that bad.

To the OP - NEVER move to NYC - that place is the only place worse than CA. Guns are only the tip of the iceberg.

 

[smoothshooter]

well as a life long NY resident...Pistol Permits take time...6 months is very common where i live...there is no way to rush it either....God Bless,John...what takes the time is the research they do when check you out...

What is it about living in NY that makes it worth a the **** residents have to put up with?
Seriously.

 

[Brksanman]

You New Yorkers need to replace your government.

As hard as we try, downstate will alway elect progressive idiots.

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[Brksanman]

Coming soon to upstate, NYC style licensing. I can't wait to retire and get the hell out

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[nachogrande]

IDK ABOUT SYRACUSE

It depends entirely on the county. Even what process you go through depends on what the judge and sheriff feel like doing.

In Albany Co, you have to appear before the judge to get a pistol permit. And you're not getting a carry. In other counties, it ranges from 6-12 months, contingent on a safety class. Up in Warren County, practically as rural as it gets, you can get a "Hunting and Target" pistol permit, but there's no way you're ever going to get a CCW.

In some counties, in order to buy/transfer, you have to buy the gun, take/mail the receipt to the sheriff's office for an amendment to your pistol permit, wait a while (I've had as little as 2 weeks, as long as a month and a half back in the Bad Old Days), get the amendment in the mail, and bring that back to the FFL.

In other counties nearby, the sheriff's office happily dispenses blank amendments--you buy the gun like normal, and drop off the filled-out amendment on your way home.

I would call around to some shops in the county and find out. Just because Syracuse is north of Suffolk County doesn't mean it doesn't suck out loud.

What I would not do is send the revolver up with her.

Another thing that can come in handy is a junk gun. Some counties require you to have a handgun purchased before you can even apply. So instead of plunking down $800 on a shiny, she can either pick out some $75 barely-working piece of garbage, or you can FFL said worthless piece of garbage to her. That way, while she's waiting on her permit, you guys have only got a cheap token gun sitting in the FFL's safe. When the permit comes through, then you buy/send the one you really want.

In Suffolk county 1983 it took me 8 months & you could not buy/possess until you had it, couldn't even bring handguns I owned in from CO. My work around was a Ruger black powder revolver, that was OK, then. Kinda big for a purse. I hope she's not on campus, That might be frowned upon. A CCL fuggedabowdit.

 

[Wise_A]

I got mine relatively quick, but I also got stupidly lucky.

First, an hour after I made my appointment to file my permit (three months in advance), the lady at the sheriff's office called back to offer me an appointment the next day--someone had dropped out at the last minute. So I had to rush to get my four references in order, but I got 'em.

Then I was able to slip into an NRA Basic Pistol class by making a couple calls and showing up unannounced at a class or two--"just in case" someone no-showed to one of those. The lady that did the scheduling took mercy on me and slotted me in two months after my filing.

A months after that and I had my fingerprint appointment. One more month, and the permit was in my grubby little hands.

 

[lgjhn]

No way in heck would I EVER live under such a repressive regime....no way.
*******' libs are insane.

 

[Brksanman]

As an extra bonus, handling a firearm without a permit makes you a felon. Another kick in the nuts

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[Jdavis]

It would seem that such restrictions and regulations would be a violation of 2nd amendment by making it difficult to exercise that right. When I lived in N.C., I thought that it was a pain to have to "buy" a handgun purchase permit and wait for the Sheriff's approval before making a purchase. Moved to Florida which has a three day wait for handguns unless you have a CCL which after the obligatory background check, allows you to take it home. Living in a free state is a blessing.

 

[NYlakesider]

In Suffolk county 1983 it took me 8 months & you could not buy/possess until you had it, couldn't even bring handguns I owned in from CO. My work around was a Ruger black powder revolver, that was OK, then. Kinda big for a purse. I hope she's not on campus, That might be frowned upon. A CCL fuggedabowdit.

Partially true as long as you have no powder, ball, caps for the black powder revolver. You have "the makings" in your dwelling or with you and you have the revolver it is in NY consider the same as a modern handgun and has to be on your pistol permit!

So a strict reading of the law if you have a BP rifle/shotgun you cannot have a BP pistol unless it is on your permit!

 

[GeoJelly]

Just a wee question - and, sorry, maybe a little bit off-topic! I assume you have to take the permit into an office each time? I've lived under a similar requirement when I was in Germany for many years. But, IIRC, since I had a sport shooter card, I could buy a pistol from the Rod & Gun Club then take the permit down town and have them add it to the card. In Germany, at that time, the permit (Waffenbesitzkarte or WBK) was a green card with room for, maybe, 10 handguns. The office had to send the WBK to Cologne for the pistol info to be added onto the card. The one tiny advantage of being old is I don't think I have to worry about seeing such a system here in VA ... I hope!!

I found an old copy of one side of my WBK - the Ruger GP-100 was a very sad story - I had to turn it in for (supposedly) destruction ...

 

[NYlakesider]

Just a wee question - and, sorry, maybe a little bit off-topic! I assume you have to take the permit into an office each time? I've lived under a similar requirement when I was in Germany for many years. But, IIRC, since I had a sport shooter card, I could buy a pistol from the Rod & Gun Club then take the permit down town and have them add it to the card. In Germany, at that time, the permit (Waffenbesitzkarte or WBK) was a green card with room for, maybe, 10 handguns. The office had to send the WBK to Cologne for the pistol info to be added onto the card. The one tiny advantage of being old is I don't think I have to worry about seeing such a system here in VA ... I hope!!

In NY state you have to get a amendment signed by a judge or designated pistol permit clerk to possesses you new handgun. Dependent on what county you are in that could take from minuets to a month or more. In my county its usual within a week.

 

[GypsmJim]

In NY state you have to get a amendment signed by a judge or designated pistol permit clerk to possesses you new handgun. Dependent on what county you are in that could take from minuets to a month or more. In my county its usual within a week.

In my county its immediate. A few months ago I bought a new handgun, got the bill of sale, drove to the pistol permit office and registered it and then went back to the gun store and picked it up. Total time 2 hours.

 

[GypsmJim]

What is it about living in NY that makes it worth a the **** residents have to put up with?
Seriously.

Pistol permits are actually easy peasy. As long as you are not a felon, as it should be. But pistol permits are only one thing that we have to contend with, but to call it a hassle....?.

Our State parks are awesome and most open to hunting. Our state lands are open to hunting and fishing everywhere. Our scenery is beautiful, our weather optimum, our cost of living reasonable and the state services are better than most. If you are a sportsman, NY is the place to be.

We hunt and shoot in our backyard. Pristine bass waters are only 2 miles away. Since this is a sportsman's site I won't bother to go into the other social amenities available.

But what makes NY the best is our people - you won't find a finer bunch anywhere.

Am I happy here? - yes. Would I move? - no. When i was working i was a world traveler and I have never found a place that was better.

Now, a caveat.....I speak of NY State. NY City is a world of its own and only a fool would live there...

 

[nachogrande]

AS I RECALL

Partially true as long as you have no powder, ball, caps for the black powder revolver. You have "the makings" in your dwelling or with you and you have the revolver it is in NY consider the same as a modern handgun and has to be on your pistol permit!

So a strict reading of the law if you have a BP rifle/shotgun you cannot have a BP pistol unless it is on your permit!

This was the 80's, I bought the BP pistol (in NY) prior to the permit. No issues buying primers/powder/bullets, later and there was a cooling off period (for the gun). Cuz you know if you want to commit a crime/murder, black powder is always your first choice. No problemo shooting it at Calverton, Huntington range you weren't allowed in the pistol section without your license. Then I added the BP pistol to my license when I finally got it. No rifles or shotguns were ever listed, (on the pistol permit) but I'm sure records existed. If I was illegal, oh well, I did my best. & the kicker, the handguns I had to leave in CO waiting for my permit, got stolen! So much for going by the book, which of course I do, but don't have to like it. Things MAY HAVE changed in 35 some years.

 

[NYlakesider]

This was the 80's, I bought the BP pistol (in NY) prior to the permit. No issues buying primers/powder/bullets, later and there was a cooling off period (for the gun). Cuz you know if you want to commit a crime/murder, black powder is always your first choice. No problemo shooting it at Calverton, Huntington range you weren't allowed in the pistol section without your license. Then I added the BP pistol to my license when I finally got it. No rifles or shotguns were ever listed, (on the pistol permit) but I'm sure records existed. If I was illegal, oh well, I did my best. & the kicker, the handguns I had to leave in CO waiting for my permit, got stolen! So much for going by the book, which of course I do, but don't have to like it. Things MAY HAVE changed in 35 some years.

To the best of my knowledge there never was a problem buying black powder (if in small quantities) caps or BP projectiles. Same for BP pistols just go and buy them the sticky wicket came when you also had the means to make it fire. Then it has to be on a permit to be legal.

I bought 3 pistols, 2 right over the counter (a local K mart) but I never had the powder,ball or caps. Two of them were kits I assembled and then sold never firing them, this was in the late 70s early 80s. The other one was for sale at a garage sale and I bought it cheap and sold it. Never owned a BP long gun.

Yes I agree NY laws tend to be rather convoluted.