Odd question I know but 9x19 for CCW?

[walnutred]

I find myself occasionally in a situation where I desire something a little heavier caliber wise than the 32 I normally carry, yet in a smaller package than the 9x18 I occasionally carry.

Looking real hard at the small 9x19's on the market. Concealability is of prime importance or I'd look at something larger in both size and caliber. Cost is also a factor, times being what they are.

I admit I've always favored handguns either larger or smaller than 9x19. Anyone carry here carry this caliber CCW?

 

[walnutred]

I find myself occasionally in a situation where I desire something a little heavier caliber wise than the 32 I normally carry, yet in a smaller package than the 9x18 I occasionally carry.

Looking real hard at the small 9x19's on the market. Concealability is of prime importance or I'd look at something larger in both size and caliber. Cost is also a factor, times being what they are.

I admit I've always favored handguns either larger or smaller than 9x19. Anyone carry here carry this caliber CCW?

 

[Richard Simmons]

Come summer my daily carry will be a Glock 26 in an MTAC Minotaur IWB rig. Ammo will be Federal BPLE 115 +P+ or Federal BPE 115 +P.

If I find a 124gr +P load that the gun and I both like I might switch to that.

 

[cmort666]

Don't forget the Walther PPS.

I'd NEVER carry a .32 unless I was a cop or some kind of spy and had to have DEEP cover.

 

[walnutred]

Originally posted by cmort666:
Don't forget the Walther PPS.

I'd NEVER carry a .32 unless I was a cop or some kind of spy and had to have DEEP cover.

A lot of people feel that way, but I'd bet that world wide more pistols in 32 ACP have been carried CCW than any other ctg.

 

[Andy Taylor]

Originally posted by walnutred:

Originally posted by cmort666:
Don't forget the Walther PPS.

I'd NEVER carry a .32 unless I was a cop or some kind of spy and had to have DEEP cover.

A lot of people feel that way, but I'd bet that world wide more pistols in 32 ACP have been carried CCW than any other ctg.

My guess would be .22.

There are LOTS of good choices in 9mm. Go to a range that rents guns and try a few to see what you like.

 

[38-44HD45]

My usual primary is a 9x23, but I don't feel undergunned with a 9x19 loaded with Ranger-T 127gr.+P+, Cor-Bon 115s, or Gold Dot 124s in +P form. I've carried a Seecamp .32 for many years, but not as a primary.

 

[John R]

9mm is fine for CCW.

 

[GatorFarmer]

How small do you want to go? The pocket Glocks are decent guns, but heavy. The 3913/14 and P225/P6 are probably large if you want something smaller than whatever you're carrying in a 9x18. Most of the 9x18 guns that I've seen - save the Czech 82 - are roughly Walther PP size. There are 9x19s in this bracket but they tend to either be problematic, thicker, or expensive.

The pocket Glocks are decent guns, though some users have issues with limp wristing them. They're also thick and heavy. The Kel Tec P11 is thick, though lighter. It's also not the most durable weapon ever made, but probably has more of the bugs worked out than most Kel Tecs. The PF9 is slim and light, but too many people are still getting buggy ones for my taste.

The Kahrs are an option, but they aren't cheap really.

You might want to look for one of the old Star 9mm SA autos. A bunch of these were floating around not too long back for less than 250.

 

[torrejon224]

My absolute favorite small 9mm is a Walther P99c with the AS trigger. Small enough to fit in a pocket with an 11 round capacity (10+1) and as backup you can carry full size 16 round mags. With Ranger 127+P+, you get the same ballastics as 357sig.

 

[38-44HD45]

Originally posted by torrejon224:
My absolute favorite small 9mm is a Walther P99c with the AS trigger. Small enough to fit in a pocket with an 11 round capacity (10+1) and as backup you can carry full size 16 round mags. With Ranger 127+P+, you get the same ballastics as 357sig.

Maybe the same ballastics, but not quite the same ballistics.

I've chronoed Ranger-T 127s through various barrel lengths, and with the short tube on the Walther, you're likely still going to be 150fps. or so shy of .357 Sig numbers.

 

[Wyatt Earp]

When I don't carry a wheelgun, which is rare, this is what I carry:

M&P9c in K&D Holsters' Cochise Defender

Believe it or not, this thing is barely bigger than a 637 (I have laid one on top of the other) yet carries just over twice the ammo with much easier reloading ability.

IMO, the M&P compact is THE perfect concealed carry weapon. It is no harder for me to conceal than the thin single stack 9x19s out there that give up 30 to 50% of the M&P's capacity.

 

[Spotteddog]

Wyatt,
I've only been carrying my(M&P9c)IWB now for about 3 weeks. But I'm tending to agree with all you noted. The 342PD is now in the weak side pocket.

 

[flop-shank]

That sounds like a good setup, Spot.

 

[Firehouse]

If I find a 124gr +P load that the gun and I both like I might switch to that.

I picked up some of the Federal 124gr. +P HST ammo. I shot some of it in both my 3913 and my CS9 and I have to say I was impressed. I would give it a recommendation.

Beautiful holster Wyatt Earp. I'd like one of those for an M&P40c.

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Originally posted by Firehouse Firearms:

Beautiful holster Wyatt Earp. I'd like one of those for an M&P40c.

K&D Holsters

 

[38-44HD45]

Hey Wyatt, how long did you have to wait to get your K&D? I've had two on order for a few months now, and I'm wondering how much longer it is likely to be.

 

[Spotteddog]

38/44,
I'm about 5 weeks into my wait for one. I'm using one of these in the interim (7 days order to delivery) VERY good product.

http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/index.html

 

[Wyatt Earp]

It usually takes 12 to 16 weeks to get a holster from Kevin.

 

[38-44HD45]

Thanks, Wyatt. I have plenty of good carry rigs for my usual setup, IWB under a suit coat or sport coat or untucked sweater. I only need the K&Ds for "tuckable" use, and that won't be often, so I don't mind waiting, but I'm pretty sure that it's been 16 weeks or longer. Spot, I looked at the Crossbreed as an alternative to a K&D, and almost bought one. Both my sons use Crossbreed's "man purse" shoulder bag, and those are finely crafted items.