max503
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I front pocket carry a j frame on the bike. Keeps sweat off the gun. It is slow to impossible to draw. You can always carry a foot long piece of rebar in your pocket if you need something quick to deploy.
Off Body Carry On A Bicycle ?
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bigwheelzip
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Training. In general, the Swiss train their army among the civilian population in the countryside. Expansive Army bases for training don't exist, leading them to use towns for war games.
Those bicycle troops trained to cycle 200km in a day, with a 75kg load.
These were troops war gaming at the elementary school my friend's daughter worked at.
Mary one other dumb question if you don't mind? Do they use the bicycles to build stamina, i.e. simply for exercise? Or is that how the units would actually deploy in the event they were needed? Is there some advantage or strategy to using bicycle mounted troops? Tonight is the first I have ever seen or heard of such a force.
bigwheelzip
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They had deployed troops on official purpose built bicycles from 1905 to 2001. These were special forces equivalent to our Rangers.
The nation has an excellent 65,000km marked trail system which would allow these troops to stealthily move about the country off-road on bicycles. This is critical, since one of the planned defenses is the blocking or destruction of roadway infrastructure.
A Swiss trail intersection:
I was out riding one day, saw a bored officer directing traffic, so I stopped for a chat. I asked him what kind of holster their bicycle officers used. He said their regular duty holster.
roguegamma
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The Japanese army used bicycle mounted infantry very successfully in their invasion and occupation of The British and Dutch East Indies.
On another note, my retired father used to ride his mountain bike on a short rural loop around the same time each day. Three or four times within a week or so a lowlife in a beat-up car harassed him on his rides by crossing head-on into his lane and running him into the ditch while spitting at him and yelling threats. My dad began riding with a 6" Model 629 mounted in a holster on the bike frame. He thankfully never saw his antagonist again, but he said he got some strange looks from passing motorists.
On another note, my retired father used to ride his mountain bike on a short rural loop around the same time each day. Three or four times within a week or so a lowlife in a beat-up car harassed him on his rides by crossing head-on into his lane and running him into the ditch while spitting at him and yelling threats. My dad began riding with a 6" Model 629 mounted in a holster on the bike frame. He thankfully never saw his antagonist again, but he said he got some strange looks from passing motorists.
Ivan the Butcher
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In post 11 I described how I carry cycling. It gets notice by those that know and the sheeple never see it.
At lunch one day a couple of University Police officers were talking out loud about a gun that could be seen inside/under clothing. Since we have open carry and a CCW, they decided (out loud) that there was no problem. (One was the Assistant Chief, who I've talked with for 35 years when he was City LEO/Detective. and was sending signals to his guys not to hassle the old guy!)
We ride mostly on "Rails to trails", but will use lightly traveled roads, I haven't had a people problem yet, I'm worried about dogs!
Nobody today will ever start a dog gun thread, but 100 to 140 years ago "Bicycle guns" and holsters were major marketing topics!
As for belt fed weapons, we decided that our lone 3 wheel recumbent rider gets to mount the M-60!
Ivan
At lunch one day a couple of University Police officers were talking out loud about a gun that could be seen inside/under clothing. Since we have open carry and a CCW, they decided (out loud) that there was no problem. (One was the Assistant Chief, who I've talked with for 35 years when he was City LEO/Detective. and was sending signals to his guys not to hassle the old guy!)
We ride mostly on "Rails to trails", but will use lightly traveled roads, I haven't had a people problem yet, I'm worried about dogs!
Nobody today will ever start a dog gun thread, but 100 to 140 years ago "Bicycle guns" and holsters were major marketing topics!
As for belt fed weapons, we decided that our lone 3 wheel recumbent rider gets to mount the M-60!
Ivan
gwpercle
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I did a search on the term " bicycle bags" ...Amazon has a nice selection of little saddle bags that mount to the top center frame ...easy for you to access and compact size . waterproof , two pouches .
Or they have handle bar mounted bags . A small one with easy access front zipper would do nicely .
Thinking about a small waterproof bag on a bike ...that would be a good place to put wallet , keys , cell phone , handgun while riding ...keep everything sweat free.
I bet local bike shop would have bags you could look at and see how roomy they were .
Gary
Or they have handle bar mounted bags . A small one with easy access front zipper would do nicely .
Thinking about a small waterproof bag on a bike ...that would be a good place to put wallet , keys , cell phone , handgun while riding ...keep everything sweat free.
I bet local bike shop would have bags you could look at and see how roomy they were .
Gary
Is that for real?
Needs a handlebar mounted UziLike these Swiss bicycle infantry.
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No off body on a bike
I'm a avid bicyclist and motorcycle rider. I wouldn't off body carry. It's too easy for a assailant to dismount you via hit from behind, stick in the spokes or sudden punch in the face as you're on coming.
I'm from Brooklyn. Seen all 3 done.
I'm a avid bicyclist and motorcycle rider. I wouldn't off body carry. It's too easy for a assailant to dismount you via hit from behind, stick in the spokes or sudden punch in the face as you're on coming.
I'm from Brooklyn. Seen all 3 done.
JJEH
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I was just trying to be funny, seeing them soldier riding in line and singing a happy song
smoothshooter
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I have 2 small waist packs that my wife ordered online for about $10 each. Work great. One is a light gray color, and the other is a two- tone light/dark gray.
Do not buy anything that looks " tactical ", or colored black, military green, desert tan, or camo of any kind.
Buy something that looks like what a Liberal pacifist would wear.
Do not buy anything that looks " tactical ", or colored black, military green, desert tan, or camo of any kind.
Buy something that looks like what a Liberal pacifist would wear.
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max503
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I bought a tight fitting pancake holster for my J Frame but have never used it. Where I ride it's pretty civilized. A J frame in the pocket is all I need.
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They're also in uniform and carrying openly, something OP may not want to do.
If you wear a cycling jersey while you ride, one option is to use a small autoloader in a pocket holster in the right pocket (assuming you are right handed and have the shoulder mobility to reach into your jersey pockets). I know at least two people who do this, one because he told me, the other because it was printing so badly through the spandex that I could just about read the serial number on the gun That's legal here so it was not a big deal. But it's always in reach, it's on your body, and the jersey will keep it from bouncing around. If I were to carry while riding that's how I would do it.
Fanny or Gut pack.
I ride a bicycle a lot in the warm months and I've used a "Bagmaster" waist-pack for years. Actually I use the waist-pack for CC most of the time, especially when I wear shorts. It's convenient and well built out of cordura nylon. I don't worry about the sweat & I sweat a lot. I mostly carry a Glock 27 or a Kahr P380 and I just clean/oil them when needed.
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Sometimes open carry isn't as obvious as you'd think. I remember a few years ago (when I was still on the job) looking at an older guy on a bicycle (wearing helmet, spandex, etc.) ride by and he had what appeared to be a J frame in a holster on his beltline. The Officer I was talking to and I both noticed it but I doubt most people would have. (We thought he was pretty smart and no sane person would have felt threatened.)
I've also seen men open carry when walking with their wives in their neighborhood in the evening. Our community is safe thanks to all these armed citizens.
BTW, stainless steel is the way to go if you're worried about corrosion.
Watch how you mount a top bar bag. You don't want it to interfere with your cables.
max503
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I ride a lot and I carry. My town is safe and civilized, so pocket carry works for me. If I needed quicker access I would go with a fanny pack or something of that style carry. Things like that don't draw a lot of attention if you are on a bicycle.
My Seecamp 380 goes right here, along with my cell.
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