Officer Down; Charges Filed

Every agency I’ve served with has had the policy of Dispatch keeping the resident on the line until LE arrives and advises the situation is Code 4. A lot of homeowners are armed (which is okay) but they’re instructed to put their weapon down before greeting LE.

Home Invasions are a real risk these days and I’ve had several residents call 9-1-1 to verify I’m the Police before opening the door at night (which is not a problem as Dispatch always knew what I was doing anyway).

Voice commands are really important in a situation like this for both the homeowner and LE.
 
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I've responded to alarm calls........

There's investigative information not being disseminated to the public.

For all I know, the PD may have been dispatched / responded to the wrong address.

That's certainly happened before.

Tennessee man dies in police raid on the wrong house.

"A 61-year-old man was shot to death by
police while his wife was handcuffed in another room during a drug raid on the wrong house. Police admitted their mistake, saying faulty information from a drug informant contributed to the death of John Adams Wednesday night. They intended to raid the home next door."

Then there's this case:

Kathryn Johnson, a 92-year-old black woman in Atlanta, was shot and killed in a "drug raid" by police.

Everything about this so-called drug raid was phony. It wasn't even a case of raiding the wrong house or looking at the wrong person. Three officers were later sentenced to active prison sentences with no parole in a federal prison. The three officers had pleaded guilty to conspiring to violate the civil rights of 92-year-old Atlanta resident Kathryn Johnson.

Interested forum members may read the facts about it by clicking here.

A brief quote from the United States Department of Justice website dated February 24, 2009:

"WASHINGTON - Three former Atlanta Police Department (APD) officers were sentenced to prison today by Chief U.S. District Judge Julie E. Carnes on a charge of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death, arising from the fatal police shooting of Kathryn Johnston, a 92-year old Atlanta woman. Johnston was fatally shot at her home during the execution of a search warrant obtained by the defendants based upon false information on Nov. 21, 2006. The announcement was made by Acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King of the Civil Rights Division; U.S. Attorney David E. Nahmias for the Northern District of Georgia; and Gregory Jones, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Atlanta office.

Jason R. Smith, 36, of Oxford, Ga., was sentenced to 10 years in federal prison; Gregg Junnier, 42, of Woodstock, Ga., was sentenced to 6 years in federal prison; and Arthur Tesler, 42, of Acworth, Ga., was sentenced to 5 years in federal prison. There is no parole in the federal system.

Each defendant was also sentenced to serve 3 years of supervised release following his prison term, and collectively to pay $8,180 in restitution for the costs of Johnston’s funeral and burying."

So sometimes, everything is not as it seems to be at first glance.
 
FROM THE ARMCHAIR WITHOUT ALL THE FACTS.

SHOOTING A COP should = an arrest (after initial investigation)IMO. The shooter could be found innocent, or the case dismissed. The homeowner knew an alarm was tripped & police on their way. Time to stay put & let the LEOS do their job. A flashlight beam IS NOT an adequate threat of life to fire at an unknown target imo. Something smells fishy & this guy DOES NOT deserve a medal for shooting at a shadow, from the insufficient info so far. WHAT WOULD YOU DO? & then an incomplete story, we've heard this before. :rolleyes:
 
That's certainly happened before.

Tennessee man dies in police raid on the wrong house.

"A 61-year-old man was shot to death by
police while his wife was handcuffed in another room during a drug raid on the wrong house. Police admitted their mistake, saying faulty information from a drug informant contributed to the death of John Adams Wednesday night. They intended to raid the home next door."

Then there's this case:

Kathryn Johnson, a 92-year-old black woman in Atlanta, was shot and killed in a "drug raid" by police.

Everything about this so-called drug raid was phony. It wasn't even a case of raiding the wrong house or looking at the wrong person. Three officers were later sentenced to active prison sentences with no parole in a federal prison. The three officers had pleaded guilty to conspiring to violate the civil rights of 92-year-old Atlanta resident Kathryn Johnson.

Interested forum members may read the facts about it by clicking here.

A brief quote from the United States Department of Justice website dated February 24, 2009:

"WASHINGTON - Three former Atlanta Police Department (APD) officers were sentenced to prison today by Chief U.S. District Judge Julie E. Carnes on a charge of conspiracy to violate civil rights resulting in death, arising from the fatal police shooting of Kathryn Johnston, a 92-year old Atlanta woman. Johnston was fatally shot at her home during the execution of a search warrant obtained by the defendants based upon false information on Nov. 21, 2006. The announcement was made by Acting Assistant Attorney General Loretta King of the Civil Rights Division; U.S. Attorney David E. Nahmias for the Northern District of Georgia; and Gregory Jones, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI’s Atlanta office.

Jason R. Smith, 36, of Oxford, Ga., was sentenced to 10 years in federal prison; Gregg Junnier, 42, of Woodstock, Ga., was sentenced to 6 years in federal prison; and Arthur Tesler, 42, of Acworth, Ga., was sentenced to 5 years in federal prison. There is no parole in the federal system.

Each defendant was also sentenced to serve 3 years of supervised release following his prison term, and collectively to pay $8,180 in restitution for the costs of Johnston’s funeral and burying."

So sometimes, everything is not as it seems to be at first glance.

I know I should bite my lip and move on, but at the risk of being banned for life I have to respond to this. I don't know how the LEO's can read this and not respond, probably the training kicking in. But I am not a LEO, however my daughter is a State Trooper...AND GOD HELP ANYONE WHO EVER SHOOTS HER BY MISTAKE AND CALLS THE AFTERMATH "HOUSEKEEPING". How can anyone consider these examples justification for what this nimrod did. Sad to see that some people actually think that 2 wrongs do make a right. And people wonder why so many are pushing for more gun controls. There, I said it...I'll take my punishment like a big boy.
 
Even though I'm repeating what some have already said, "WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS YET! WAIT UNTIL WE DO TO COMMENT." My agency's policy is to go to an alarm silent- no lights, no siren. We shout as loud as we can, "Sheriff's Department!" multiple times before entering. We don't take for granted the occupant can see our uniform or know who we are. Terrible situation for ALL involved.
 
This wasn’t the wrong address or a phonied up drug warrant.

The officers were dispatched to this house because of a monitored alarm, presumably installed and paid for by the cop killer.

They responded per their protocol. The officers found an open door, and announced their presence. Officer Heidleberg, by at least one account, was outside the door shining his flashlight inside.

The cop killer, by his own account, fired at the flashlight. Unfortunately the light wasn’t held by incompetent home invaders, it was held by a 28 year old cop doing his job by responding to the home alarm system installed and paid for by the cop killer.

However long he gets won’t be long enough.
 
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For all we know the homeowner could have set his alarm off so he could ambush the responding officer(s). Crazier things have happened and a lot of LEO’s are being ambushed these days.
 
No one wins in that situation. But, that homeowner better damn well be able to articulate why he grabbed a gun and fired at a flashlight beam. I have no doubt those on scene officers identified themselves. My department wears white shirts and white hats. At one time, we tried switching to the standard dark blue shirts with dark hats. I was told (not sure it was true) that a white shirt makes a police officer more identifiable at night, to avoid a misidentification by a private citizen. Regarding this situation, every officer on this forum knows no one behind a computer knows all the case facts. None of us were there and hopefully no one believes just what was written by the press. A court of law will make the final call, not the court of public (internet) opinion.
 
No one wins in that situation. But, that homeowner better damn well be able to articulate why he grabbed a gun and fired at a flashlight beam.

The homeowner, Charles Wilson, won't have to articulate anything of the sort.

His attorney has already issued a statement on his behalf:

"David Wilson believed that his family was experiencing a home invasion and only fired his weapon to protect his family."

The only thing he's required to do right now is enter a plea, which he may have already done.

Unless I'm mistaken, if this goes to trial, he won't even have to testify unless advised to do so by his attorney.

I have no doubt those on scene officers identified themselves.

I'm sure they did. Reports say the police "went to the front door and loudly announced who they were." Some questions that can arise out of that will be how many times did they announce, and did Charles Wilson actually hear them. The defense will probably ask did they continue to announce once inside the residence. Where was Wilson in relation to the police. If this goes to trial, I could see at least one whole day being devoted to testimony about just those issues alone.

Some background information on Charles Wilson, if anyone's interested (info courtesy of reporter Tom Cleary):

"Wilson is 37-years-old, is married and has three children. Wilson is the president and CEO of Unitex Oil & Gas LLC, an energy investment company based in Midland, according to his Linkedin profile.

He was profiled in Forbes Magazine approximately eight years ago as one of it's 30 Under 30 best in the field of energy.
According to the Unitex website, “Wilson bought his first west Texas oil wells at the ripe age of 20. Now in his early 30's he has over 250 wells producing about 450 bbl per day."

Regarding this situation, every officer on this forum knows no one behind a computer knows all the case facts. None of us were there and hopefully no one believes just what was written by the press. A court of law will make the final call, not the court of public (internet) opinion.

Absolutely. Not just every officer...every forum member who's commented here, including me, should know it. Every forum member laments the death of a law enforcement officer and any other emergency responder.

Regarding not believing just what was written by the press...the press has reported what its been told about this case. They're all saying more or less the same thing, and nothing new has been released for two days now. I haven't seen any editorializing going on in any of the news reports I've read. I did find one actual editorial about this in the Midland Reporter-Telegram.

A brief quote from that editorial (bold print is mine):

"We hope our readers refrain from casting blame regarding the tragic events of Tuesday morning. We don’t know all the facts yet, and therefore, no one should rush to judgment – especially on social media. Eventually, we will know all of the facts, and we believe the justice system will be fair to all involved -- including homeowner David Wilson, who has been charged with manslaughter, a second-degree felony, but who is innocent until proven guilty."

Interested forum members may read the whole editorial by clicking here.

There's also another story in the Reporter-Telegram about the officers' affidavit. Click here to read it.
 
SHOULDN'T BE TOO HARD TO FIGURE OUT.

That Wilsons gun killed the cop, Wilsons prints on the gun, gunshot residue on Wilson, witnesses?, a confession? More a matter of was he justified to use lethal force (against a beam of light from outside his home). :rolleyes:) He's lucky to be alive. Stick a fork in him, he's done. JMO
 
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For all we know the homeowner could have set his alarm off so he could ambush the responding officer(s). Crazier things have happened and a lot of LEO’s are being ambushed these days.

This is pure speculation and adds nothing to the discussion other than stirring the pot.
 
This is pure speculation and adds nothing to the discussion other than stirring the pot.

Not trying to stir any pot, merely stating all the facts are not in. I always tried to have an open mind when conducting a criminal investigation.
 
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