Old School Calipers

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I am curious. I have several calipers, and yes, even one is digital. Boy it's easy on the old eyes. However, My favorite is still the old slide rule type. The kind without digital or dials. I seem to have misplaced mine and was glad to have found another on amazon for under $15 bucks. No frills. Always accurate .

Anyone else use one of these old style calipers?
 
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The first caliper that I bought back in the 70s was a 6" Mitutoyu dial caliper . . . wish I could remember where I put it :(

In more recent years I have switched to a digital simply because they are faster to zero and easier to read. Plus you can switch between inches and millimeters with the touch of a button . . . That is something my old Mitutoyu can not do

For those folks that are going to chime in "what if the battery dies"?

I actually have two of these in different parts of my house, but there is always a replacement battery in each case with the caliper.

Additionally since this is the same battery that other items I own use, there are always more of the batteries sitting in the freezer
 
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I was talking with a reloader a few weeks ago about "Acceptable Tolerances." I was saying My original dial Caliper [for case length trimming] only measured to 1/100 of an inch, and weighing powder charges was on scales marked in 1/10 grain, but the scale was listed as accurate to within +/- 2/10 grain.(that meant the lightest to heaviest could very by 4/10 of a grain!)

Now I insist either on "NO Trim" cases (for my AR's) or the other extreme I trim to 5/10000" (for my 1000 yard bolt actions)

I have very good balance single and 3 beam scales the are within .05 to .10 grain, as checked by certified check weights and two good digital scales. However I got a notice from Sinclair International that they offer a scale that is 1/100 grain accurate (only 4 or 5 times the price)

In that same time frame (late 1970's), I checked match bullet weight consistency, Hornady Match 168 gr HPBT varied by up to 10%, back then Sierra was about 4%. Now days, Sierra very about .5% ON SECONDS!

In my assortment of tools I have a Starrett Micrometer that runs from 1" to 2". It was given to me by my oldest son because it only measured to .001" (1/1000") and he needed one for .0001" (1/10000") Is he a machinist? NO, he is an Airframe Helicopter Mechanic! and has to verify all materials used for repairs! (I guess that's why he makes the big money!)

Ivan
 
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I started out using an old Craftsman Vernier caliper some 60 years ago. Graduated to a dial I think in the 70s, then to a digital maybe 5 years ago. About 4 years ago I got tired of chasing batteries and went back to the dials. Have one on the lathe, on the mill, at the reloading bench, and in the garage. Have to periodically check them against a micrometer because they do wear out. It still amazes me how versatile these tools are.
 
I worked as a machinist for the first 8 years of my career and in the beginning, all we have were the graduated scale vernier calipers. Funny thing was that when the first dial calipers came out, we didn't trust them to be as accurate. We adjusted in time. I guess that must be what it was like for some folks older than me going from slide rules to calculators. I learned how to use a slide rule, but never put it into practice.
 
I remember Dad, an engineer, using a slide rule all the time. This would be back in the 60s. Calculators were at his office, too expensive for home use.

I was doing automotive machine work in the early 80s, using vernier micrometers and dial calipers.

I've never used either vernier or digital calipers.
 
Bought an aged Vernier caliper soon after I started reloading, found it in a pawn shop for a $5 bill. Graduated to a Mitotuyo dial caliper some years later, and it still performs flawlessly. Probably one of the most important tools for a reloader to have and know how to use.
 
Yes, I still have one, and use it occasionally. It's a Browne & Sharp that I bought new in the 1960's. It's hard for me to read because my eyesight is not what it used to be. I have a pair of cheap digital ones that I use most of the time these days, since I have no reason to measure close tolerances.

Have a blessed day,

Leon
 
...I have switched to a digital simply because they are faster to zero and easier to read. Plus you can switch between inches and millimeters with the touch of a button...

I bought a replacement digital caliper for my reloading workbench recently & found one that also has the option of showing the reading in fractions.

My old RCBS dial caliper had decimals/fractions on the dial face & I found that feature comes in handy occasionally when checking bolt/pipe/washer sizes.

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I'm an old machine head, started with verniers and went to dials about 1975 or so. Changed jobs and started working in an area that had a lot of aluminum and titanium dust that caused the dials to skip a tooth on the rack, most of the shop went back to verniers and took our dials home. Paid around $100 for my 1st scientific calculator now if you don't have one on your phone you can pick one up for less than $10.........Now I'm a grumpy old man thank god I'm retired.
 
A friend came into our Thursday night gathering about 10 years ago. He had a brand new digital caliper, that went to 5 points (.00000") We were measuring various random things. Most metal objects changed thickness just by holding them, The heat in our hands caused them to expand! Assuming it was accurate, it was too confusing to bother with. It sets in its box, on a shelf, collecting dust!

Ivan
 
I have a couple of digital calipers.
They are easy to use but the batteries are always dead.

I have a dial caliper that sits in its case.

My 200mm (8") NSK metric vernier scale caliper is my "go to" workhorse.

John
 
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Bronco89: Is this what you're talking about? Vernier scale calipers I bought when I first started reloading around 1967. I prefer my 6" Starrett calipers that I found in a pawnshop for $25.
 

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I had an all-plastic dial caliper until a machinist friend gave me a metal digital to get me to stop using the plastic one. I like it but have had to change batteries a couple times. Nice being able to switch from inch to metric on the fly.

Also still have my slide rule from tech school, but before graduating I mail-ordered one of the first small cheap 4-function calculators for $8.95 from a newspaper ad. The first month I used it I felt like I had to double-check its answers using the slide rule, LOL. Then the folks gave me an HP12C for Christmas and I've used that ever since, changing the batteries once. (Once in 45 years, not too bad!)
 
I started with digital about 5 years ago but found it deteriorating with time. So I "downgraded" (technology wise) to a Mitutoyo dial caliper which I absolutely adore. Rock solid. Repeatability is amazing.

If I came across a vernier caliper in a pawn shop or something I'd probably buy it....just to have. Would be interested to "downgrade" again. Although if I had it I don't know that I'd use it on a day-to-day basis. But it would be fun to have.
 
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