One should always have a gun on hand.

[Mike SC Hunter]

A couple of weeks ago as I was walking back to the house from my shop I saw a coyote in my front yard. I eased into the house(made sure my cat was in) and got my .22 magnum. Going out on the front porch we noticed it was gone. Then we saw it walking back across the weed field in front of my house. Now mr. coyote had a problem..........A .22 magnum through the lungs. I HATE the damn things.......They are ruining our deer herd and will get our pets if possible.
Last year I soaked 26 sponges in bacon grease put them out. Overnight they were gone..........Supposed to get inside, expand and stop them up permanently.

 

[Lycan]

Last year I soaked 26 sponges in bacon grease put them out. Overnight they were gone..........Supposed to get inside, expand and stop them up permanently.

Killing them quickly for whatever reason is one thing, but torture is really sad. Even avid hunters respect the concept of a quick and as painless as possible death. I really don't know what else to say about it.

 

[model70hunter]

Coyotes owe me for @300 chickens, ducks and geese, 2 goats, 4 calves and quite a few piglets in the last 10 years. If I see one, I will wear myself out trying to kill it.

This is a little SW of Viburnum, Missouri.

I was raised on a farm. Coyotes do eat all the above plus deer.

Eradicating coyotes was part of most farm kids jobs.

 

[model70hunter]

Killing them quickly for whatever reason is one thing, but torture is really sad. Even avid hunters respect the concept of a quick and as painless as possible death. I really don't know what else to say about it.

I agree on quick and painless when hunting animals or birds.

But lets say you are an 8 year old farm boy who has hand raised a farm animal. In my case it was a pet hen who followed me like a dog and would fly up on my shoulder. We locked the chickens up nightly. She did not show up. The next morning I found feathers and tracked them to a pile of feathers minus the entrails and breast. For my neighbor friend it was a young pig raised for the fair.

I understand their need to eat, but I am not going to socialize with them, invite them over for dinner nor applaud while they kill fawns. I will however send all I see on my farm to the promised land.

I personally perceive them as opportunistic vermin and do my best to keep their population in check. So quick and painless for a coyote? I agree unless the rascal is running too fast and the bullet hits behind the last rib.

 

[forrestinmathews]

I once shot a squirrel at forty paces with a PPK/s in .380. As I was telling my hunting buddies the story I realized the gun had fallen out of my pocket as I had crossed a fence. I returned to the place where I had made the shot to find the gun laying in the leaves unharmed. To this day they all recall the way the color dropped from my face as I realized I had dropped my gun.
I also shot a doe on the run at sixty yards straight away that same season with a Glock 19 and some +p hollow points. One hit and lights out right through the boiler room.

Disclaimer: Both of these "tall tales" occurred during a time where I was burning through ammunition like it was going out of style. I doubt I could repeat them on demand, but one must take the shot to make the shot.

 

[CO_Kid]

So you shot an innocent coyote?

A coyote getting that close to people isn't innocent, for long anyways.

 

[ironhead7544]

A coyote getting that close to people isn't innocent, for long anyways.

True, I would think it was rabid. They will kill and eat your dogs.

I recently saw an estimate of up to 65% of new fawns here in GA are killed by yotes. Had a couple of bad deer seasons here. While deer hunting, people werent shooting coyotes for fear of disturbing the deer. Now they are and the deer seem to be coming back. People are also trapping them.

Concerning the snakes, bags of anti-venom are around $20,000.00 each. You might need several.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

Killing them quickly for whatever reason is one thing, but torture is really sad. Even avid hunters respect the concept of a quick and as painless as possible death. I really don't know what else to say about it.

They are destructive vermin. I don't care how they die as long as they die. I love animals. Coyotes are worthless scum.

 

[redlevel]

Killing them quickly for whatever reason is one thing, but torture is really sad. Even avid hunters respect the concept of a quick and as painless as possible death. I really don't know what else to say about it.

You are making the mistake of applying hunting ethics to vermin eradication. Think rat poison. No one worries about the pain and suffering of the rat who ingests the poison. Same with roach bait or termite bait stations. The idea is to remove the vermin.

 

[ColbyBruce]

And right before Erich did that, I picked off a gnat on that fly's butt with my 622VR. It was intentional.
Now let me tell you how much it had snowed that day......

I have to stop reading this thread and put my boots on...it is getting deep here.

 

[OFT II]

I have to stop reading this thread and put my boots on...it is getting deep here.

It's too late for boots. Just hold your arm up and try to save your watch.

 

[JDBoardman]

Murderers…………………..By the way, Ravens are protected.

The only way to distinguish between crows and ravens is to count the number of flight feathers. One bird has six, one has seven. It's just a matter of a pinion.

 

[Lycan]

You are making the mistake of applying hunting ethics to vermin eradication. Think rat poison. No one worries about the pain and suffering of the rat who ingests the poison. Same with roach bait or termite bait stations. The idea is to remove the vermin.

Don't get me wrong, vermin often need to be thinned out. Killing them is not the problem I have. The problem is leaving out things like Bacon sponges, antifreeze, rat poison, or even small animal traps in areas that ANYTHING can get too. There is no way to guarantee what animal is getting a hold of those things.

And, even if only coyotes end up with them, the method of death is long and drawn out to the point of torture. I've known people whose dogs have eaten poison that was left out for coyotes and it wasn't a pretty sight. The people that put that stuff out can't even guarantee it will stay on their property. Something else could carry it away to somewhere else where an innocent dog or cat (on it's own property) could get a hold of it.

It's simply careless and thoughtless to do so. If you can't shoot them or kill them in a safe and quick manner, than you don't need to be the one killing them in the first place.

 

[model70hunter]

I keep quail habitat on my farm. I like house cats and they like me.

Feral cats tippy toeing down a fence row fall under the heading invasive species. Innocent? Nope innocent is a term oft used by lawyers and defendants. A feral cat or coyote does all of their work under the direct guidance of their genetic makeup. I try not to apply Disney'isms attributing people characteristics to animals. And they definately do not understand the boundary they crossed.

I do hear you and understand where you are coming from. I will respect the way you personally want to deal with them.

John Wayne in Green Berets did offer legal advice for vermin; Col. Michael Kirby (The Green Berets):
"Out here, due process is a bullet." For my part I agree with the Duke.

 

[Don 73]

Don't get me wrong, vermin often need to be thinned out. Killing them is not the problem I have. The problem is leaving out things like Bacon sponges, antifreeze, rat poison, or even small animal traps in areas that ANYTHING can get too. There is no way to guarantee what animal is getting a hold of those things.

And, even if only coyotes end up with them, the method of death is long and drawn out to the point of torture. I've known people whose dogs have eaten poison that was left out for coyotes and it wasn't a pretty sight. The people that put that stuff out can't even guarantee it will stay on their property. Something else could carry it away to somewhere else where an innocent dog or cat (on it's own property) could get a hold of it.

It's simply careless and thoughtless to do so. If you can't shoot them or kill them in a safe and quick manner, than you don't need to be the one killing them in the first place.

I don't like poison either for that reason, it's too random. You don't control what gets "hit" by the poison and you could accidentally get your own or one of the neighbor's animals. I'd rather take a deliberate shot at a specific, visible target than throw a bunch of 'landmines' around that could take out anything.