Open carry?

[MSgt G]

Don't be surprised if they don't know or understand the laws regarding open carry......it's been a comedy of misinformation in lots of cases here in Michigan.

Amen! The police, unfortunately, don't/can't know ALL of the laws. You'll have to research for yourself.

 

[cmort666]

Thanks for all the info guys it changes with different countys too im gonna call my local police dpt and ask someone there cause im havin a bit of trouble findin my countys regulations and restrictions on the matter

Do NOT ask the police about laws. Ask a lawyer or read the law yourself.

I've had a cop stand in front of me and wildly misstate Ohio law to me, and threaten me with that ignorance in the bargain.

 

[cmort666]

There is a book of codes that will apply to certain situations. Officers may not know the exact R.S. or C.C. number but they have a code book with a number to put on the ticket. The same applies to speeding. The officer may not have gotten a reading on your speed but he can charge you with violating the general speed laws.

Returning to the actual topic, in Ohio open carry is legal in non-prohibited places, PERIOD. It's not "inducing panic", PERIOD. In fact, open carry alone doesn't even meet the elements of the offense, PERIOD. And Ohio has preemption. The ONLY gun laws in Ohio are state and federal ones, PERIOD.

The police don't need to know every law.

They need to know every law they're enforcing RIGHT NOW.

If you wrongfully deprive me of my liberty because you don't know the law or don't care what it says, I'm going to exact a price from you for that lack of respect for your profession.

 

[oldman45]

Returning to the actual topic, in Ohio open carry is legal in non-prohibited places, PERIOD. It's not "inducing panic", PERIOD. In fact, open carry alone doesn't even meet the elements of the offense, PERIOD. And Ohio has preemption. The ONLY gun laws in Ohio are state and federal ones, PERIOD.

The police don't need to know every law.

They need to know every law they're enforcing RIGHT NOW.

If you wrongfully deprive me of my liberty because you don't know the law or don't care what it says, I'm going to exact a price from you for that lack of respect for your profession.

You are preaching to the choir. I love open carry. Works well, it is legal, not hard on clothing, does not cause any problems (well...other than with those that are uptight because they have never done it because their state does not allow it) and it does not require paperwork or fees.

Some say they have never seen open carry. I say they have but just did not pay it any attention. Some times when I am carrying openly, only the handle of my sidearm is showing. That can be mistaken for a cell phone, pager or sunglasses. Some times it just blends in with the clothing.

I can carry concealed due to my occupation and my various permits. I can carry openly because it is comfortable, legal and quicker.

Now for a quick question: If someone were to visit OH, would they be allowed to OC or just CC with their state permit?

 

[cmort666]

Now for a quick question: If someone were to visit OH, would they be allowed to OC or just CC with their state permit?

1. Open carry on foot does not require any sort of credential, or even any ID.
2. To have a loaded handgun in a vehicle AT ALL requires an Ohio CHL or recognized equivalent.
3. The law recently changed and most of the sillier car carry restrictions have been removed. It's now lawful to [with a CHL or recognized equivalent] have a loaded handgun on, under or between the seats, without a holster, container or any other sort of artifice.

One of the ironies of the "inducing panic" fairy story is that when the concealed carry law was first passed, open carry was REQUIRED in a vehicle. If open carry is "inducing panic", then not so long ago, the Ohio Revised Code REQUIRED you to induce panic when carrying a loaded firearm in a vehicle.

 

[rayban]

There often isn't a law permitting open carry. Laws generally say what you can't do, not what you can. Here in Virginia OC is permitted because there is no law against it.

Yep, same in Michigan.

 

[oldman45]

1. Open carry on foot does not require any sort of credential, or even any ID.
2. To have a loaded handgun in a vehicle AT ALL requires an Ohio CHL or recognized equivalent.
3. The law recently changed and most of the sillier car carry restrictions have been removed. It's now lawful to [with a CHL or recognized equivalent] have a loaded handgun on, under or between the seats, without a holster, container or any other sort of artifice.

One of the ironies of the "inducing panic" fairy story is that when the concealed carry law was first passed, open carry was REQUIRED in a vehicle. If open carry is "inducing panic", then not so long ago, the Ohio Revised Code REQUIRED you to induce panic when carrying a loaded firearm in a vehicle.

Now I am happy I turned down a position in OH. Louisiana has it's bad points but anyone can carry a loaded weapon any where in their car. Under the seat, in a glove box or console, in the door panel, under the leg, on the dash, in the trunk or where ever you want. This applies to residents, those passing through or those relocating here.

OC is allowed no questions asked.

OH is a good example of why I maintain the principle difference in OC attitudes is going to be determined by how long the law has been in effect. There are several Youtube videos showing OH, as well as other states, police stopping people that OC. It is relatively new to them and they are not quite sure how to deal with it or what is legal. Here, the law has been on the books long before any officer's great-great grand parents died of old age. They never knew any other way of life. It causes OC to be unusual in states that enact laws allowing it.

 

[cmort666]

OH is a good example of why I maintain the principle difference in OC attitudes is going to be determined by how long the law has been in effect. There are several Youtube videos showing OH, as well as other states, police stopping people that OC. It is relatively new to them and they are not quite sure how to deal with it or what is legal. Here, the law has been on the books long before any officer's great-great grand parents died of old age. They never knew any other way of life. It causes OC to be unusual in states that enact laws allowing it.

Other than in a vehicle, there's NO law regarding open carry in Ohio. That's why it's lawful. That which is not prohibited is permitted.

Ohio has lawful concealed carry BECAUSE OF open carry.

The excuse had always been that concealed carry was unnecessary because open carry was lawful. Then when a court actually ruled that, the Ohio Highway Patrol and other enemies of citizen carry panicked. They were suddenly confronted with the specter of that which THEY had "advocated" for so long. That's when we got lawful concealed carry... albeit with "poison pills" in it, such as required open carry in vehicles and mandatory notification. The opponents were shocked when CCW passed, and even more shocked when their various attempts to torpedo it failed miserably. The next one to go down in flames will be mandatory notification. They can thank Officer Harless of the Canton PD when that happens.

 

[oldman45]

Other than in a vehicle, there's NO law regarding open carry in Ohio. That's why it's lawful. That which is not prohibited is permitted.

Ohio has lawful concealed carry BECAUSE OF open carry.

The excuse had always been that concealed carry was unnecessary because open carry was lawful. Then when a court actually ruled that, the Ohio Highway Patrol and other enemies of citizen carry panicked. They were suddenly confronted with the specter of that which THEY had "advocated" for so long. That's when we got lawful concealed carry... albeit with "poison pills" in it, such as required open carry in vehicles and mandatory notification. The opponents were shocked when CCW passed, and even more shocked when their various attempts to torpedo it failed miserably. The next one to go down in flames will be mandatory notification. They can thank Officer Harless of the Canton PD when that happens.

Were the anti's up there screaming about CC would create mass shootouts, and the area would become another Dodge City? I have heard them do so in several states as legislation was attempting to pass gun laws allowing more latitude in firearm carry.

 

[cmort666]

Were the anti's up there screaming about CC would create mass shootouts, and the area would become another Dodge City? I have heard them do so in several states as legislation was attempting to pass gun laws allowing more latitude in firearm carry.

WERE they? They still ARE!

We recently got restaurant carry. Their arguments against that were EXACTLY the same as the arguments against concealed carry in general.

Nobody's buying the BS anymore. They're not crying wolf. They're crying WEREWOLF and nobody's dumb enough to believe them.