Paper or plastic? With or without?

Paper or plastic? With or without?


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Exactly. Easy to mistake one for the other. When I got fingerprinted they took a new pic, but CHL showed up with the same pic as DL.

Just got my fingerprints done this week, and yes they took a new picture. The paper requirements/instructions state that the DL image will be used on the CHL. I guess I'll find out in a few weeks. Those in the know have gotten theirs in about 1-month here in Texas.
 
I have yet to understand why the Texas CHL has my driver's license number on it. If they're going to do that why issue two separate licenses? Modify my TDL to indicate that I have a CHL and issue that one once and be done with it. If I lose my CHL for any reason then just issue a new TDL. Nah....too complicated for government......
 
Exactly. Easy to mistake one for the other. When I got fingerprinted they took a new pic, but CHL showed up with the same pic as DL.

Texas/DPS might now be up to date enough to use one picture for both licenses but they didn't used to be - my TDL and CHL have different photographs but my Level III Firearms Instructors License has the same picture as my TDL. So it looks like they're getting their act together on computerized photos.
 
I have yet to understand why the Texas CHL has my driver's license number on it. If they're going to do that why issue two separate licenses? Modify my TDL to indicate that I have a CHL and issue that one once and be done with it. If I lose my CHL for any reason then just issue a new TDL. Nah....too complicated for government......

IMO, the DPS just wants to be able to seize your CHL without having to have to tow your vehicle when/if they do so. Too much work otherwise... ;)
 
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In MASS, our license is similar to a drivers license....plastic, picture, name, address, birth date, license number, expire date and address. We do not have to list weapons on our LTC (license to carry). You apply with your hometown police department or the town you work if you are a business owner or LEO. It then gets mailed to a magical mystical bureaucratic office in Boston where they do the exact some background check your PD does then after they hold onto it for two to four months it gets mailed back to the PD for the Chief to sign off on. Towns with out a PD you apply through the State Police. When I was a kid it was a paper laminated FID for rifle/shotgun no picture and out of high school first LTC was paper with your own passport photos. Those days are long gone in MASS you need to be 21 for a LTC. Back then you could buy from a friend or relative of do a personal transfer.
 
In NY, it depends on the county you live in whether you get a plastic card or a paper one. On the paper permits, there is a place to put the guns you have on it. On the plastic ones, as you add to it ( at least in my county ) they give you an updated list of what you have on the permit. Also depending on county , you may or may not be issued a concealed carry permit ( generally depends on what the judge's opinion is as to whether he lets you carry...concealed only, no open carry ) .
 
In Georgia, it's a plastic laminated card, called a "GA Weapons License". Similar to a driver's license, has photo ID, name, address, sex, height, weight, DOB, eye color. date issued, expiration date (five years thereafter). Weapons are not listed.
 
In North Carolina, our licenses are issued by the sheriffs' offices in our county of residence, but are of course good throughout the state, even if we move. We renew every five years. Mine came laminated, but I live in a populous county with a sheriff's office that has plenty of resources. I don't know if all sheriffs' offices are able to do it this way; maybe some other Tar Heels can throw in on that.

Otherwise, they're plain vanilla. No pictures, and no list of weapons. Being a license holder does all me to purchase handguns without having to apply for a pistol permit every time, which is a nice benefit.

What he said.

Additionally, our DL number is our permit number. DL must be presented along with permit if engaging an LEO, since DL is the photo ID part...

Also for anyone interested, ours is called a "North Carolina Concealed Handgun License"...
 
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Well, we don't need a license here!

But, I have one for travel to other states and it is plastic, no photo, and no firearms listed.
 
In NY pistol permits are issued by your county of residence. All counties are different in their requirements and procedures.

In our county we have a credit card-sized, paper permit with picture, thumb print and pertinent personal data. All handguns owned are to be registered with the county and NYS and listed on your permit. Any additions or deductions are done at our County Clerk's office. New guns are typed in and sold/traded guns "X-ed" out accordingly. Our county charges 3 bucks for this record keeping. However, if you have 2 or more changes, the fee is still $ 3.

Once the back of the permit is full a supplemental second, third, etc. page is issued. Information for each gun listed has it's: manufacture, type (pistol or revolver) serial # and caliber.
 
What jframejoey said, plus its a "may" issue LTC and it costs $100 for 6 years. I think there is a limit on how many and how often you can buy handguns.
 
In the great gun friendly state of Kansas your concealed carry license looks just like your DL…..they do take a new picture…..use the same number……no weapons listed.

Semper Fi!
 
I actually have multiple, so can't make a full poll report. My home state License To Carry Firearms is paper. The Utah Concealed Firearms Permit and Arizona Concealed Weapons Permit are nonresident and are plastic. I marked the poll with my home state permit. Also none of them require any particular weapon be listed for carry.
 
In my jurisdiction, the Concealed Handgun Permit(CHP) is issued by the Circuit Court in the form of a plain paper card printed on flimsy paper...no picture or print...no list of firearms...A real high quality document for fifty dollars. It must be carried with a government issued picture ID. I would prefer one that is like the driver's license...In fact, I would like it if it was an endorsement on the driver's license...perhaps.
 
The drill in Alaska

In Alaska, a CCW 'permit' which is not required by State Law, can be issued by the Dept. of Public Safety for the amazingly low price of $91.50 with a set of fingerprints, a photo, and a training completion certificate. Once the application is submitted, the DPS will complete a background check. If the permit is granted, a distinctive plastic card, fairly similar to the Alaska Driver's License, will show up in the mail and is valid for 5 yrs. No list of firearms is shown. A NICS Exempt version of the permit can be requested, which simplifies future gun purchases. This permit enjoys reciprocity with 30+ other states not controlled by flaming Liberals. :)
 
Plastic that looks alot like a DL with same photo as in DL. No weapons listed. Got mine in 14 days from the day DPS received my packet. Way to go TXDPS!
 
Actual "permit" is a heavy plastic card, with photo, name, address, occupation on front. Back side has thumb-print, issue date, and Judge's signature.

Seperate card(s) list the individual items, by make, model, s/n, caliber, and either "R" or "A" for type. My two single-shots are listed as "A".
 
In Kentucky, our license is similiar to a drivers license....plastic, picture, name, address, birth date, license number, expire date and address. We do not have to list weapons on our CDWL. These are generated by the State Police.

Same as Michigan.
 
I have yet to understand why the Texas CHL has my driver's license number on it. If they're going to do that why issue two separate licenses? Modify my TDL to indicate that I have a CHL and issue that one once and be done with it. If I lose my CHL for any reason then just issue a new TDL. Nah....too complicated for government......

N.C. Also has you DL No. on it. It is paper which after you sign, the local Sheriffs office will laminate. No weapons list and, when you qualify you can use anything that you want to as long as the range you are using allows it i.e. if they would allow 50 cal you could qualify with it.
 
In North Carolina, our licenses are issued by the sheriffs' offices in our county of residence, but are of course good throughout the state, even if we move. We renew every five years. Mine came laminated, but I live in a populous county with a sheriff's office that has plenty of resources. I don't know if all sheriffs' offices are able to do it this way; maybe some other Tar Heels can throw in on that.

Otherwise, they're plain vanilla. No pictures, and no list of weapons. Being a license holder does allow me to purchase handguns without having to apply for a pistol permit every time, which is a nice benefit.

I live in Mecklenberg County and it came laminated also. Drivers license number is also on it so LEO pulling you over checking tags will know if you have a CHP.
 
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In some states it's an endorsement on one's DL...that would simplify things...
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Makes perfect sense. Not sure why those states that use the same # and picture as DL don't simply put an endorsement on the DL - like they do for organ donors and veterans, etc.

I hate having too much stuff in my wallet. As a retired LEO, I am required to carry my retired ID which is endorsed for CCW along with a retired badge(optional); but, under the LEOSA, we are required to qualify every 12 months, which requires a separate card showing annual qualification. There are no weapons listed, but it does show that you qualified with an auto and or revolver. Mine happens to be laminated. Makes for a fat wallet!
 
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Oklahoma has plastic cards. The card lists the "type" of weapon the carrier is approved to carry. Oklahoma recognizes 3 types of handguns; derringers, revolvers and semi automatics. It you quality with a derringer, that is all you are approved to carry. If you qualify with a revolver, you are approved for derringer or revolver. If you qualify with a semi auto, you can carry any of the three.

And, you must have a handgun license to carry on your person, but you can carry concealed or openly at your discretion.
 
Actually having CCW combined with DL wouls be a disadvantagous reason thing. DL are used as de facto generic for of ID . Having it marking you as gun carrier ( and presumably gun owner ) would open you to harassment by antigunners , and would be a tip off for burglars to target your adress to steal guns.

And thirdly in the may issue nonpermissive jurisdictions Permits are often surrendered/ taken for reasons other than expiration. Most are job based, and change in employment, change in job title , or any of the vague and subjective determinations that you are no longer your jurisdiction's flavor of " suitable person" , and you'd be stranded with no DL .
 
LEOSA Creds

FWIW, my Maryland issued 'LEOSA Concealed Firearm Carry Certification' is a plastic, credit card size, card.

It bears my name, original agency, control number, weapon type authorized, and expiration date. It also bears my photo.

Of course, my agency issued i.d. with photo must accompany it.

Be safe.
 
In my jurisdiction, the Concealed Handgun Permit(CHP) is issued by the Circuit Court in the form of a plain paper card printed on flimsy paper...no picture or print...no list of firearms...A real high quality document for fifty dollars. It must be carried with a government issued picture ID. I would prefer one that is like the driver's license...In fact, I would like it if it was an endorsement on the driver's license...perhaps.

Flimsy paper is an understatement. I put mine in one of the blaze orange hunting license carriers that VA DGIF gives out when you get a license. So far, so good.
 
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