If SCOTUS can't force them who can?
Partial Win - Otherwise Loss in NY Carry Appeal
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If SCOTUS can't force them who can?
kbm6893
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Really? 18 year old adults can't buy even a Ruger 10/22. New applicants for Permits have to pay way more, attend classes, and can't carry in public places. Buying ammo, any ammo, even a brick of Thunderbolt .22, requires a background check and a fee.
They got away with it. They will continue to get away with it. And if the Supreme Court doesn't stop them, what the hell will?
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Seriously, PLEASE....
Can somebody sum up the main points of these cases?
Can somebody sum up the main points of these cases?
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For better or worse, SCOTUS only lays down in its holdings the minimum required to uphold or reverse a decision in accordance with the Constitution (or federal law in non-Constitional cases.)
And while a written decision may be long, only the holding is law.
So, in Bruen, the holding was that citizens have a right to self defense outside of the home and that that right includes, for law abiding citizens, the right to carry a firearm, and so shall issue is required and may issue is a violation of the Constitution.
The verbiage about not overly restricting the Constitutional right to carry a firearm by restricting, for example, where it can be carried, or how onerous it is to get a carry license, is guidance, to be refined by further litigation.
SCOTUS is much more likely to accept a case when different circuit courts of appeal come to different conclusions. That is happening now, with, remarkably, the 2nd and 9th in disagreement.
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See my post immediately preceding this one.
Remember how long it took from Heller to Bruen?
I don't think it will take that long this time around since I believe Constitution abiding Justices avoided taking 2A cases while they believed that they might not have a majority, and until Trump got his three nominees on the bench it was 5-4 at best. Now it's 6-3.
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Maybe the DOJ?
When was the last time the Department of Justice cared about justice?
They HOLD all the justice, they don't dispense it.
Pre 2021 for sure.
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In the interest of transparency, perhaps they should rename it to the Department of Injustice.
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