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I started carrying a small 19 gram container of Sabre Red Gel Pepper Spray when I am out running errands here locally. I started carrying the pepper spray in addition to my EDC firearm, (that I have always carried) during Covid. Like elsewhere, it seemed like people lost their minds with the mandatory masking, isolating and 6 foot spacing. Some folks started confrontations and fights over small perceived or actual issues. Locally we also saw a real uptick in very aggressive panhandlers cornering people in parking lots and refusing to accept no/go away and this issue is still ongoing.
Getting older, with a history of multiple back surgeries and bad hips, I no longer have the mobility to rapidly retreat from a threat without tripping over my own feet . I wanted to have another option available to help break contact with an aggressor and to have a defensive option for those incidents that do not rise to the lethal force threshold.
 
I've talked about this before but I ran into people at work who dared me to shoot them all the time. Some of them dared me to shoot them when I wasn't even carrying a gun.

But every time I started shaking up my OC I got instant compliance.



I carry spray everywhere. FWIW I had a cop tell me once that the little cans are worthless. The can I carry (pictured) is 1.9 OZ which is as big as what CSPD carries
 
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If you have never tried the brand you want to carry buy an extra to learn what spray pattern and what distance it will spray.

I've carried my 4 ounce Fox Labs 5.3 the last few bike rides I was on. There is a German Shepherd that really scared me last week. He ran about 40 yards to the road and bit at me, did not get me. I did not want to go by him again without some spray. I've sprayed him 2x now. 1st time was a good face hit. 2nd time was an OK hit but further distance. Now he runs to the edge of his property but won't come close to me. The 1st hit/spray, he instantly turned and headed home. Very much worth the money.
 
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I usually have OC off duty. It only makes sense to have some intermediate force available. For that, I carry Sabre pepper spray, stream configuration. Been hit with the cone stuff by my co-workers too many times to have an appreciation for it.

I prefer my 2.9 oz can of Sabre "Phantom" OC at work, but it's a bit much for daily carry. Good for dog walking though. A friend of mine busted his can of Sabre yesterday. That stuff is the gift that keeps on giving. He's still wiping OC off his belt, holder, etc. and cursing every time he touches his eyes. I've laughed alot today, at his expense.
 
Had a dog in Florida that thought I looked kind of tasty. To make a long story short I didn’t want to shoot him so gave him a shot of pepper spray. Changed his mind completely. I don’t go anywhere without Sabrea Red Pepper Gell.
 
I have a SABRE Advanced Pepper Spray alongside the spare magazines in my truck, and my wife carries one in her vehicle as well. It's our first line of defense against any aggressive individuals who may approach our windows during a road rage incident.

Got them from Amazon (of course... :))

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Shrek Of The Arctic said:
A friend of mine busted his can of Sabre yesterday. That stuff is the gift that keeps on giving. He's still wiping OC off his belt, holder, etc. and cursing every time he touches his eyes. I've laughed alot today, at his expense.
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Everyone I know that carries it, cops included, have always sprayed themselves via some accident or malfunction.
 
Pepper Spray-----I've heard the name---don't know the first thing about it.

From what I've read here, it works---as a preliminary deterrent. Is it fair to say it disables an adversary enough to prevent the necessity of resorting to loud noises and muzzle flash---or simply delays it?

Ralph Tremaine
 
I have a couple of the 4oz containers of the FOX Labs spray.........I usually won't carry it in the truck with me, because I worry about it bursting in the summer, or freezing in the winter. Anyone ever have any issues with environmental effects on these cans of spray........
 
Would love to have access to it, but like in Canada, it's banned in both Australia and New Zealand. :(
 
I put a can of either POM or UDAP through the washer and dryer by accident. It didn't leak and it didn't malfunction afterwards.

When I worked for G4S day they issued us Saber Red pepper gel. Before we were allowed to carry it we had to be sprayed with it. Saber red took between 30 seconds and a minute to incapacitate me.

There used to be a video on YouTube of a female marine named Douglas getting sprayed with OC. When she got sprayed you could see the look of shock on her face. She turned around to the people filming her and said is this it? When it finally hit her, it hit her but she was able to complete the confidence course with a face full of it.

That's something to keep in mind it's not going to stop somebody immediately. I mean some people it will but be prepared for it not to
 
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Since I'm not in professional law enforcement, I'm neither trained, nor obligated, to initiate or engage in a measured escalation of violence, therefore, pepper spray isn't included in my self defense preparations..
 
haywood said:
Had a dog in Florida that thought I looked kind of tasty. To make a long story short I didn’t want to shoot him so gave him a shot of pepper spray. Changed his mind completely. I don’t go anywhere without Sabrea Red Pepper Gell.
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I hope you meant “nasty”, not “tasty”. Wouldn’t think about eating one personally. :(
 
There are two products widely available, pepper spray (think aerosol) and gel (thick, paint-like). The latter won’t require decontamination of the whole room or building where it was deployed. Outdoors there may not be much difference.
 
I have good UDAP hard plastic holsters, which I consider mandatory, for our bear spray.

I need to find something for the small cans.
 
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