What are the odds of the person having a set of numeral stamps that were the same style and size as those used at the S&W factory.
Yes it is possible, but unlikely.
Bekeart
Pictures of a 38/44 HD with strange serial number
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What are the odds of the person having a set of numeral stamps that were the same style and size as those used at the S&W factory.
Yes it is possible, but unlikely.
Bekeart
1Aspenhill
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Another thing that could help solve the mystery is to remove the sideplate and see if the hammer block is there. Also the hammer will have a notch cut in it to accomodate the hammer block. Don't you love a mystery!
Bill
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Jerry
Yes - I did notice your earlier comment. Indeed, it does look like a 3, under
magnification. The serial number on the barrel, assuming there is one, should be
interesting, because presumably the refinishing would not have disturbed it.
Bill
First things first - we have to get dk to respond !
Later, Mike Priwer
Yes - I did notice your earlier comment. Indeed, it does look like a 3, under
magnification. The serial number on the barrel, assuming there is one, should be
interesting, because presumably the refinishing would not have disturbed it.
Bill
First things first - we have to get dk to respond !
Later, Mike Priwer
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Mike,
I checked all the N Frame databases in all calibers and there is not a hit for 35068 or S 65068. We will have to wait on DK as you say.
Bill
I checked all the N Frame databases in all calibers and there is not a hit for 35068 or S 65068. We will have to wait on DK as you say.
Bill
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Gents,
I appreciate your efforts here. I am supplying additional photos to Mike who I have ask to post so you might gain additional insight. There was no 3-4 digit rework stamp under the left grip. Only what looks like a small "H" stamped on the lower left corner. The gun was refinished about 10 years ago from sitting in a leather holster for a couple of decades. Small pitting and some slight rust. The right grip panel has what looks like the same 65068 S/N stamped into it. It doesn't show very well in the photo, so I also took a rubbing to see if that helps. The face of the yoke facing the cylinder has 45068 stamped into it as does the recess where the extractor rod sits. The hammer is stamped REG. U.S. PAT. OFF. Let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks again,
DK
I appreciate your efforts here. I am supplying additional photos to Mike who I have ask to post so you might gain additional insight. There was no 3-4 digit rework stamp under the left grip. Only what looks like a small "H" stamped on the lower left corner. The gun was refinished about 10 years ago from sitting in a leather holster for a couple of decades. Small pitting and some slight rust. The right grip panel has what looks like the same 65068 S/N stamped into it. It doesn't show very well in the photo, so I also took a rubbing to see if that helps. The face of the yoke facing the cylinder has 45068 stamped into it as does the recess where the extractor rod sits. The hammer is stamped REG. U.S. PAT. OFF. Let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks again,
DK
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Either the first number was badly stamped by S&W when they made it or someone over-stamped the first digit. The correct serial clearly seems to be 45068.
Not too many reasons for over-stamping one digit that I can think of.
Except one.
But since people get upset at me when I mention that possibility I won't.
Not too many reasons for over-stamping one digit that I can think of.
Except one.
But since people get upset at me when I mention that possibility I won't.
OP
Here are two of the latest pictures - showing the serial number in the
extractor housing, and on the rear face of the cylinder.
For whatever reason, that first digit on the butt is an overstamp. This does seem a bit strange, to me.
The grips appear to be 65xxx . Maybe the frame was originally 65xxx, in error. A 4 was over-stamped on the
6, but when the grips were fit, the fitter thought it was 6xxxx, and stamped the grips that way .
DK sent two other pictures, but these two are the better ones.
Later, Mike Priwer
extractor housing, and on the rear face of the cylinder.
For whatever reason, that first digit on the butt is an overstamp. This does seem a bit strange, to me.
The grips appear to be 65xxx . Maybe the frame was originally 65xxx, in error. A 4 was over-stamped on the
6, but when the grips were fit, the fitter thought it was 6xxxx, and stamped the grips that way .
DK sent two other pictures, but these two are the better ones.
Later, Mike Priwer
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If it is 45068 for the S/N, then what would be the approximate age?
chillypepper
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odds are pretty good. the only one in my set thats not s&w correct is the "&" stamp. and i havn't found an iron cross stamp yet. but then i havn't looked for one.
Art Doc
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Probably late 1934 or early 1935.
1Aspenhill
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45068 would probably be a 1935 serial number. my eyes may be deceiving me but the grip serial number looks like 45068. this serial number explains the small logo and every thing else except the over stamp on the butt.
Bill
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