Primer prices-the new normal

[raljr1]

I did buy a couple thousand of the Argentine primers for $50 per 1000. I will use those for 9 mm since I have a few thousand empty cases. i am not trying to say that the "sky is falling" just sharing what I believe will be the reality going forward. I doubt that primer price will stop many of us from shooting

 

[chief38]

Originally Posted by cracker57 View Post
why do people always say 9mm hardly worth reloading.
primer 4 to 5 cents
powder 4 cents
brass range pick up free
11 cents for a good 124 gr. JHP
so for 20 cents or a little less I put together a very accurate JHP round. show me a 124 gr JHP round in brass for even close to that.



I listed today's prices.

I'd like to know where you can get primers for 4-5 cents each, - delivered. Those are yesterday's prices. Today the least expensive primers I have seen are 8 cents each + hazmat + tax + shipping. That comes to at least 11 - 12 cents each.

12 cents for primers, 4 cents for powder and .16 to 20 cents for a bullet puts a box of 9mm at LEAST at .32 cents each or $16 per box of 50. I can buy factory ammo for under $11.00 a box delivered.

Like I said, if you enjoy reloading or bought all the component's yesteryear when they were "cheap" - yes, reloading is a money saver.

 

[jjrr]

The problem I see with comparing reloading cost to cost of factory ammo for everyday shooting is that you are expending your low cost probably high quality stash and when shortages come and based on history they will you are faced with how to get supplies and ammo. Factory ammo in the most popular calibers is close to reloading cost so I’m using factory ammo now and holding my reloading supplies for the hard times.

 

[cracker57]

I'd like to know where you can get primers for 4-5 cents each, - delivered. Those are yesterday's prices. Today the least expensive primers I have seen are 8 cents each + hazmat + tax + shipping. That comes to at least 11 - 12 cents each.

12 cents for primers, 4 cents for powder and .16 to 20 cents for a bullet puts a box of 9mm at LEAST at .32 cents each or $16 per box of 50. I can buy factory ammo for under $11.00 a box delivered.

Like I said, if you enjoy reloading or bought all the component's yesteryear when they were "cheap" - yes, reloading is a money saver.

Just got an e mail from Norma $49.00/1000 free shipping over $150 so if you buy 4000 primers they cost .049 cent each. don't remember if they charge tax or not.

 

[taz666]

I hand load for a P38 that doesn't shoot factory nine that well. It wants a larger bullet and does much better with coated lead.

 

[GypsmJim]

Fiocchi Large Pistol Primers – 1,500 count box | Norma USA

Norma offering 1500 Fiocchi primers for $135. I believe this is as good as it will get these days. Penny primers are gone.

Our local Runnings store has the same product for $110. Of course its local, so there is no shipping or hazmat fee. CCI bricks are $80.

Just for laughs I looked up the link above and they are not in stock anyway.

 

[GypsmJim]

I'd like to know where you can get primers for 4-5 cents each, - delivered. Those are yesterday's prices. Today the least expensive primers I have seen are 8 cents each + hazmat + tax + shipping. That comes to at least 11 - 12 cents each.

12 cents for primers, 4 cents for powder and .16 to 20 cents for a bullet puts a box of 9mm at LEAST at .32 cents each or $16 per box of 50. I can buy factory ammo for under $11.00 a box delivered.

Like I said, if you enjoy reloading or bought all the component's yesteryear when they were "cheap" - yes, reloading is a money saver.

Buying local and casting your own lead, its 8 cents + 3 cents + 3 cents = 14 cents per, or $7 / box.

OK, not factory, but BETTER because it works well in all even a P38.

Now, if you don't have access to a local store, or melting lead is not your thing, then then home brew might not be the way to go.

 

[birdshooter]

The problem I see with comparing reloading cost to cost of factory ammo for everyday shooting is that you are expending your low cost probably high quality stash and when shortages come and based on history they will you are faced with how to get supplies and ammo. Factory ammo in the most popular calibers is close to reloading cost so I’m using factory ammo now and holding my reloading supplies for the hard times.

Same here. I’m buying 9mm in bulk and have bought a quantity of .223. Saving my primers for more expensive calibers. With primer costs and my time, it just makes sense to me.

 

[Warren Sear]

Winchester small pistol primers were $52/1000 this morning at my local reloading shop. Make Reloading Great Again!

 

[tops]

I will sell you some cheaper than that but I don't have any right now.
PS..But when I get some in stock there be a small price increase. Larry

 

[kbm6893]

I’ll be satisfied if I can walk back into my local shop and pick up a brick of primers without crossing my fingers hoping they’ll be there when I pull up. At my shooting level, I’d pay $75-$80 a brick without complaining too much.

 

[collectordude]

If you buy pulled or blemish 9mm bullets from American reloading you get the projectiles for 6 cents each. A while back I bought a bunch at 3cents each.

 

[TXBryan]

Why do you reload?

Face it gentlemen, we reload for one of two reasons and neither of them has all that much to do with the potential savings versus buying factory ammo.

Perhaps I should only speak for myself. It seems to me I reload because I like it. Turns out to be a wonderful analytical outlet and activity. Experimentation, results, tweaking or moving on. It's fun shooting stuff you cannot buy - with regard to the component mix.

The second reason to reload is it enables you to own and shoot chamberings (calibers) you might not otherwise be able to enjoy. I love the .32-20 and own several. Good luck finding never-ending supplies of a variety of loads you like at your local gun store. I also hunt Texas whitetails primarily with a .257 Roberts. Can't say there's a wide and wonderful selection of factory ammo available for my purposes. I also am wild about my .264 Win Mag rifles and you can forget about getting truly satisfactory performance out of that cartridge without rolling your own. The list goes on.

Just not sure the relative costs/savings have that much to do with why most of us are motivated to handload.

Bryan

 

[GypsmJim]

Just not sure the relative costs/savings have that much to do with why most of us are motivated to handload.

Bryan

^^^^^100%.

It seems the major debate is always re. 9mm. As long as I can get primers, I'll roll my own. Mine work 100% in every nine I own. On a snowy Winter day, what could be better than reloading in the basement.

 

[Nick B]

About those cheap Norma primers . A friend of mine bought some and he says he’s getting around 1 failure to fire per 15 round magazine.
That’s with a tried and true Glock . So OK for range fodder .

 

[slickracer]

All true, cast 38 special can be loaded for about the same price as cast 9mm.

However, you aren't going to find any commercial 38 special for anywhere near the price of 9mm. And you're not going to find jacketed HP 9mm bullets for 12.5 cents each either.

I guess you’ve never heard of RMR….

11 cents delivered to your front door.

 

[GypsmJim]

About those cheap Norma primers . A friend of mine bought some and he says he’s getting around 1 failure to fire per 15 round magazine.
That’s with a tried and true Glock . So OK for range fodder .

Thigs are getting a little cloudy these days. Who is who?

As we all know, Vista Outdoors was recently acquired by a Czech company, who is also the parent of Fiocchi, which makes the primers we are talking about here. Sooooo, Fiocci and CCI are now cousins.

Norma is one of the premier manufacturers of ammo going back a century. When I first started in milsurps, Norma was the brand of choice. How Fiocchi ended up on Norma's web side is unknown to me. A cursory check did not reveal a connection.

My standard primers going back 50 years has been CCI. When Fiocchi primers first came to my local shop I was hesitant. Google reviews indicated that they were even better than CCI. I wasn't convinced.

I bought 2 sleeves of 300. Loaded several different calibers and tried them. Awesome results. On that basis I bought a bunch of bricks. They were the same price per primer. CCI was out of stock.

If I ever get a FTF I'll report back.

 

[glenwolde]

I'd like to know where you can get primers for 4-5 cents each, - delivered. Those are yesterday's prices. Today the least expensive primers I have seen are 8 cents each + hazmat + tax + shipping. That comes to at least 11 - 12 cents each.

12 cents for primers, 4 cents for powder and .16 to 20 cents for a bullet puts a box of 9mm at LEAST at .32 cents each or $16 per box of 50. I can buy factory ammo for under $11.00 a box delivered.

Like I said, if you enjoy reloading or bought all the component's yesteryear when they were "cheap" - yes, reloading is a money saver.

For small pistol the Argentine SA primers at NormaUSA are $50/1,000. If you buy $200+ you get free shipping, which when I've ordered them was free shipping and hazmat. I did pay sales tax so it was $279.57 for 5,000.

 

[SLT223]

For small pistol the Argentine SA primers at NormaUSA are $50/1,000. If you buy $200+ you get free shipping, which when I've ordered them was free shipping and hazmat. I did pay sales tax so it was $279.57 for 5,000.

Very interesting and tku for sharing. Have you used these before?

 

[SLT223]

^^^^^100%.

It seems the major debate is always re. 9mm. As long as I can get primers, I'll roll my own. Mine work 100% in every nine I own. On a snowy Winter day, what could be better than reloading in the basement.

^^^^^^200%