Range Report & M&P 15-22 "Apples & Oranges Comparison" to my Dedicated .22lr setup

[TacoDaTugBoat]

I have mine on a long QD mount, it bridges the upper and quad rail. It actually seems to help make everything more rigid and improves accuracy, which is also unaffected using a bi-pod.

That is another technique here, but the intention of the mount is the stay off the front rail, or where you don't have a front rail.

Is that a bug buster? I'm not sure mine has whatever is on the top eye end of your, but besides that looks the same.

 

[Zax]

It's very similar, actually the rather long named 'UTG 3-12X44 Compact IE SWAT Scope'. It's really good, has red/green and a custom mode where you can choose from 36 colors - so I am sure you can find one that has a nice contrast.

Here's my red dot on a cantilever mount... correctly mounted.

 

[pluke the 2]

i just picked up a 4.5-14x nikon for dirt cheap and i'm going to mount that on dedicated and i'm going to see if i can compare the two from the exact same positions.

 

[my_mp15-22_s&w]

I would look the 2 comparisons in the distances of 50/75/100/200 yards. Shoot say 50 at each distance for each rifle. than draw a average for each than all. With 200 rounds fired in equal conditions for each rifle with each scope set up, in good lighting with low winds U should see a very mild difference. UR not pushing a 308 down 400 yards.

 

[SmokeStack Lightning]

Speak for yourself. I shoot 7.5 ounce soda cans from about 100 yards with my 15-22, a 4MOA red/green dot while seated, elbow on table (thus, not quite bench shooting - no bench rest/bipod). Do I hit the can every time? No! But I hit it more often than I miss... I had to go to these cans because clays and bottles were too easy.

My method (since a 4MOA red dot would cover a soda can completely at 100yds) is that the dot isn't zero'd. Instead, I purposely have it off by 4MOA such that when the edge of the dot is touching the target, the target gets hit.

Unfortunately, no pictures to back it up.. handy..

Even if I had pictures, no way to "prove" it's 100 yards.

I'll mod this post once I have pictures... Stay tuned later in the week.

I, too use a R/G dot w/3X magnifier on my 15/22 shooting 3" reactive targets at 75 yards and seldom miss. No MBUS, just the dot set to lower 1/3 co-witness. Off my bi-pod.

Impresses my non-shooting buddies. Especially after they try doing it.

Something is amiss with the OP's weapon!!

 

[Lorelei]

i just picked up a 4.5-14x nikon for dirt cheap and i'm going to mount that on dedicated and i'm going to see if i can compare the two from the exact same positions.

If you can't hit with that scope there's something wrong for sure.

 

[pluke the 2]

here are the two that i'm going to compare. i'm going to try my absolute best of getting a secure platform bench rest setup and take my sweet as time. both of them are going to have to be sited in though.

 

[pluke the 2]

I'm pretty sure something is messed up with my m&p. Today I sited in both guns and the m&p feels like something is off. I gave it 100 rounds worth of time (10 mins) and got over shooting it due to frustrations...

 

[Majorlk]

I'm pretty sure something is messed up with my m&p. Today I sited in both guns and the m&p feels like something is off. I gave it 100 rounds worth of time (10 mins) and got over shooting it due to frustrations...

With all due respect, that post contains zero useable information. A piece of advice ... Quit trying to compare a .22 and .223/5.56. Concentrate on one at a time.

Second piece of advice ... Find an EXPERIENCED shooter to work with your 15-22 and get it properly sighted in. You are trying to solve a problem with virtually no shooting experience ... A total waste of time.

 

[pluke the 2]

Col. *******. With all due respect.

Take a look.

.22 dedicated on deck from my shooting platform.

My target at 25 yards.

The m&p 15/22

No .223 used at all...

 

[Majorlk]

Sir, you are the one who keeps bringing up comparing the two. You stated you sited (sic) in both guns. You have stated you are an inexperienced shooter, hence the advice to work with an experienced shooter. If that offends you, that's YOUR problem, not mine.

Finally, I have been nothing but polite to you and have tried to be helpful. The name calling is uncalled for, but if that's the way you feel, so be it. You'll never read another word from me. Now I couldn't care less if you ever get your problem figured out. Oh yea, the moderators are known to deal rather harshly with people who make abusive posts such as yours.

 

[Smitty357]

I'll keep the 15/22 because it weighs less.

Why not take that .223 lower and slap a REAL upper on it. Turn it into a .300 AAC and not worry about the little .22LR round. Leave the .22LR to the 15/22 and let the .300 AAC make u forget all about having a .223.

 

[pluke the 2]

Sorry for being harsh but your post sucked. I'm in experienced, yes. I can shoot a group with all the guns I own except with the m&p. Despite my inexperience, I'm going to send this rifle back to the mfg because it's very in accurate thus far

 

[Smitty357]

Sorry for being harsh but your post sucked. I'm in experienced, yes. I can shoot a group with all the guns I own except with the m&p. Despite my inexperience, I'm going to send this rifle back to the mfg because it's very in accurate thus far

This thread is similiar to all the Shield complaint threads.

U have a million users who have no problems and dont complain. Yet u have a few users who have problems and all of a sudden its a no good piece of **** weapon.

Ah well mines still way more accurate than my dedicated .22lr setup was. So i sold the dedicated .22lr upper and built my ole lady a .300 AAC upper. She doesnt complain about that trade at all.

 

[rimfire22]

pluke, Majorlk has been trying to help diagnose your 15-22 accuracy issues, and made good suggestions. Then you come back with this:

I'm pretty sure something is messed up with my m&p. Today I sited in both guns and the m&p feels like something is off. I gave it 100 rounds worth of time (10 mins) and got over shooting it due to frustrations...

Majorlk is correct, you provided ZERO usable information in furthering understanding of what is going on with your rifle. And when he points out this fact, you call him names?

Majorlk knows his 15-22's, but he's not God and he can't divine the problem from that kind of post.

If I were you, I'd swallow my pride, sincerely apologize to him and request further guidance. Or continue to feel like you were wronged (which you were not) and send your rifle back to S&W.

 

[pluke the 2]

Ah well mines still way more accurate than my dedicated .22lr setup was. So i sold the dedicated .22lr upper and built my ole lady a .300 AAC upper. She doesnt complain about that trade at all.[/QUOTE]

Must have had a cheap dedicated .22 or a functional m&p 22. I'm just glad to own these rifles and get to use them.

 

[pluke the 2]

pluke, Majorlk has been trying to help diagnose your 15-22 accuracy issues, and made good suggestions. Then you come back with this:

Majorlk is correct, you provided ZERO usable information in furthering understanding of what is going on with your rifle. And when he points out this fact, you call him names?

Majorlk knows his 15-22's, but he's not God and he can't divine the problem from that kind of post.

If I were you, I'd swallow my pride, sincerely apologize to him and request further guidance. Or continue to feel like you were wronged (which you were not) and send your rifle back to S&W.

Lol what?

I provided evidence that I could shoot with a .22 and I've.come here to ask why my m&p 15/22 can't perform the same way. Maybe there has been some bad communication. My intent is not to offend but seek advice. So I'll swallow my pride.

 

[Smitty357]

Ah well mines still way more accurate than my dedicated .22lr setup was. So i sold the dedicated .22lr upper and built my ole lady a .300 AAC upper. She doesnt complain about that trade at all.

Must have had a cheap dedicated .22 or a functional m&p 22. I'm just glad to own these rifles and get to use them.[/QUOTE]

I'll buy the m&p 15-22 from you for $100. I mean since it doesnt shoot that well, i wouldnt think its worth any more then that. I could always use another plinker to add to the stable.

But on another note. My model 61 pump .22 makes the rest of my .22's look like they have 2" barrels. That thing is crazy accurate.

 

[pluke the 2]

O. I c,

Sorry for the col ******* comment as its context was not intentionally meaningful.

 

[my_mp15-22_s&w]

I was plinking small bottles with iron sights from 25 yards as a 10 year old. Go that route. UR over X for such a short distance. So don't expect so much, simply relax an squeeze, in time U will simply see it and hit the same spot again and again and again. Being relaxed, U will its hit there. To desire marksmanship determines how a shootist goes about his daily practice routine. Early morning llight I find to be best for me now. My marksmanship tails off with late day attempts. As a youngster not affording many rounds I learned less than a handful were enough. One or 2, no more than 3 rounds several times a week kept me there. To hit the pigeon in the eye while in flight with the 22 means calm, relaxed, smooth shooting.