ChiefStealth
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I found a printable B-27 online. It's just most of the 9 ring, all of 10 ring, and all the X ring. File is attached. If it ain't raining tomorrow, I'll try it out.
Rastoff's Challenge- Dropping the Gauntlet
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StrawHat
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A 3x5 index card could be used with an appropriate border. 1" top and bottom, 1/2" on the sides, color is your option.
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David R
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Charter Arms Bulldog 44 special. 2.5" barrel, 240 grain 820 fps.
Standard course of fire. Outside in the snow. I get a 2" group, you can measure. Not all IN the x.
I found 3 targets for $2.49. One more try, this match should be won with a Smith.
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David R
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First it was keep it in the X. Then we are competing for group size to the .001"
Why all the extra paper?
Smith and Wesson Model 25-7 Model of 1989. I bought it new. Dennis Vantassel did the best trigger job.
250 LRN 9.0 Uniqlue, 900 fps.
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Rastoff
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It's still keep it in the X David. I was gonna head down the path of accuracy vs precision, but decided not to go there. Here I was trying to show everyone what a good shot you are and you respond with this.First it was keep it in the X. Then we are competing for group size to the .001"
Why all the extra paper?
(Just messin with ya). Again, I'd like to thank everyone for participating. I've posted this on a few gun forums. So far, this is the only forum where anyone has even tried it.
Pierre330,
For having been at this only a short time, that's a nice group. Heck, it's even a nice group for those of us that have been at it a while.
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My 10 year old, takes the challenge!
Doug (Rastoff) should be awarded some forum "Legion Of Merit" for encourging this. What a service to us all. I just realized that I can't recall a day of shooting I have enjoyed more, other than years ago with my beloved, but long dead father. Funny that an old man, still tears up realizing he is missing his own dad.
My 10 year old (I am a very late in life, first-time father/single parent with a 10 year old at 53) and I got up to our ranch and shot all afternoon. Here he is with our beloved Model 28, Highway Patrolman, SN # S1139xx, which I understand to be first year of production, 1954-55. He did take the challenge shooting .38 Special.
Isn't it amazing that a revolver manufactured 50 years before he was born still shoots like new and can bring him such joy? I think this is a true testament to the Smith & Wesson company, and these guns we love so much. How many companies are still having their products loved, cherished and used in the field decades later? Not many. I wish I could shake Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson's hands and thank them in person. I hope they are smiling down from heaven.
My son looked at me coming home--we had the roof down on our Jeep and it was about 65 degrees with a beautiful sunset--and he said "dad, this has been one of the funnest days we have ever spent together. And that Highway Patrolman is my new favorite gun." I am going to order some ivory stocks for the Model 28 and give it to my son.
Doug (Rastoff) should be awarded some forum "Legion Of Merit" for encourging this. What a service to us all. I just realized that I can't recall a day of shooting I have enjoyed more, other than years ago with my beloved, but long dead father. Funny that an old man, still tears up realizing he is missing his own dad.
My 10 year old (I am a very late in life, first-time father/single parent with a 10 year old at 53) and I got up to our ranch and shot all afternoon. Here he is with our beloved Model 28, Highway Patrolman, SN # S1139xx, which I understand to be first year of production, 1954-55. He did take the challenge shooting .38 Special.
Isn't it amazing that a revolver manufactured 50 years before he was born still shoots like new and can bring him such joy? I think this is a true testament to the Smith & Wesson company, and these guns we love so much. How many companies are still having their products loved, cherished and used in the field decades later? Not many. I wish I could shake Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson's hands and thank them in person. I hope they are smiling down from heaven.
My son looked at me coming home--we had the roof down on our Jeep and it was about 65 degrees with a beautiful sunset--and he said "dad, this has been one of the funnest days we have ever spent together. And that Highway Patrolman is my new favorite gun." I am going to order some ivory stocks for the Model 28 and give it to my son.
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First Time Revolver Shooter takes the challenge too!
We were also blessed to have one of the young attorneys that works for me come and join us as well. Like so many young folks, he loves the black rifles and black plastic pistols. He had never shot a revolver before today. He is an experienced pistol shooter and his father was highly respected Detective. He lost his dad last year to cancer but has his service Glock mounted in a case.
I was proud to have him shoot the Highway Patrolman as his first revolver experience and he did pretty well too! He commented "I have been missing out, I have to get me one of these! I LOVE this trigger and the action is like butter." I told him, there is no school like the old school!"
I am going to have find him a nice Model 28 too, to give to him to commerate this day and shooting his first revolver.
We were also blessed to have one of the young attorneys that works for me come and join us as well. Like so many young folks, he loves the black rifles and black plastic pistols. He had never shot a revolver before today. He is an experienced pistol shooter and his father was highly respected Detective. He lost his dad last year to cancer but has his service Glock mounted in a case.
I was proud to have him shoot the Highway Patrolman as his first revolver experience and he did pretty well too! He commented "I have been missing out, I have to get me one of these! I LOVE this trigger and the action is like butter." I told him, there is no school like the old school!"
I am going to have find him a nice Model 28 too, to give to him to commerate this day and shooting his first revolver.
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I did this with my no dash 686. My range won't allow anything closer than 7 yard shots, so I did the chest shots in double action from 7 yards and the shots in the upper chest area were done in single action from roughly 9-10 yards away using cheap .38 special LAX reloads.
Nice shooting, and very nice that you shared a day at the range with your son. Don't worry about being an older parent. I'm 43 and have twin 20 month old girls.
Rick_A
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Double action slow fire. Not my best work, but pretty typical.
While also not my best work, it's not bad for rapid fire (a few shots a second).
20140815_134250_LLS by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
Some folks scoff at a guy hammering rounds down range but if I'm going to practice for defensive shooting, I'm shooting at the ragged edge of my ability.
Those two low shots with the revolver were due to a couple of fizzlers with loose crimps.
This is the rest of the wheelguns doing the same:
Shots were fired as fast as I can physically pull the trigger. While it doesn't look as good on paper it is better for you as practice. The more defined hits are 357 and the soft edged holes are 38spl.
At first I feared this gun had a sticky chamber issue. When ran that hot I found they'll all do that.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_EPsKZhoXw[/ame]
If you're going to have a defensive shooting challenge, perhaps add the rate of fire to the equation.
While also not my best work, it's not bad for rapid fire (a few shots a second).
20140815_134250_LLS by Slick_Rick77, on Flickr
Some folks scoff at a guy hammering rounds down range but if I'm going to practice for defensive shooting, I'm shooting at the ragged edge of my ability.
Those two low shots with the revolver were due to a couple of fizzlers with loose crimps.
This is the rest of the wheelguns doing the same:
Shots were fired as fast as I can physically pull the trigger. While it doesn't look as good on paper it is better for you as practice. The more defined hits are 357 and the soft edged holes are 38spl.
At first I feared this gun had a sticky chamber issue. When ran that hot I found they'll all do that.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_EPsKZhoXw[/ame]
If you're going to have a defensive shooting challenge, perhaps add the rate of fire to the equation.
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Rastoff
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Yep, lots of guys say that. The response will always be the same from me. Rapid fire (an ambiguous term at best) will hide a lot of sloppy trigger work and flinching. The "challenge" as presented, will accentuate any trigger control anomalies.
You're a good shot Rick. This is about solidifying those fundamentals. Doing this type of shooting every now and then will make for a better shooter all around.
As I stated in the OP, I had never actually done this until I shot the target in the OP. In fact, my own practice generally consists of controlled pairs and failures-to-stop drills. I'm adding this basic shooting back into my routine.
You're never too advanced to work on fundamentals.
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Rastoff
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And for those who are just dying to shoot fast: http://smith-wessonforum.com/concealed-carry-self-defense/421991-rastoffs-challenge-ii.html
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I can't afford to spend much time at the range so most of it is spent on more defensive-oriented shooting skills. However, I always try to spend at least a cylinder-full or two of ammo focusing on fundamentals.
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Those are some interesting guns. I don't consider it a waste. Any trigger time is valuable if used properly.
While working with different guns is fine, it's also valuable to work with your self-defense gun. Learning every aspect of your gun is always a good use. You never know when you'll have to take a well placed shot. This is one way to practice that.
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Nice shooting Shorty 45 MK2. Same to you ContinentalOp. Those hits will definitely stop the bad guy, but more importantly, they show that you have decent trigger control.
Thanks to all who have stepped up and tried this. There is another challenge out there now and more in the future. Shooting is fun, but quality practice that has a specific purpose is what makes us effective with our firearms.
Thanks to all who have stepped up and tried this. There is another challenge out there now and more in the future. Shooting is fun, but quality practice that has a specific purpose is what makes us effective with our firearms.
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