Review of BG 2.0 comp version.... that is one unhappy shooter
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Not shocked.
Since August of 2024, I've watched nearly every YouTube video that I could find on the BG2 searching every day. Some have been very interesting, factual, and revealing. Some are just a waste of my time. A few really get detailed with their testing and their feedback is reasonable. Most do not discuss or mention the list of design flaws and quality control issues.
It's definitely NOT common to have sights off for me. No other firearm, I've owned since 1978 including Colt, Ruger, Charter Arms, Sig Sauer, Remington, KelTec, and Panther Arms, have had bad sights, accuracy, reliability, or out-of-the-box failures.
With that said, I really like my BG2 for a very concealable, light weight, comfortable pocket defense carry. So far it has shot 9 different brands with zero failures. I have a little over 250 through it, anxious to get to 500. I'm eager to get the ArmaLaser Trigger Guard Mounted green laser. The Talon grip on the rear of the slide was very big help with gripping and racking the slide. I have not yet decided to go to the XS Sights.
I don't use brass dowels to drift sights.
His POIs are very similar to what I experienced at 25 yards, not benched – very disappointed.
10 Yards: High/Left? – My BG2 POI has all been Left about 4", Low about 2". After drifting the front sight, it's now about 1 inch left and believe it or not the POI came up about 1 inch.
Cost: Not that important for my defense carry. $200 or $300 either way doesn't matter to me if my defense carry will shoot an A-Zone at 4 yards, 7 yards, and 15 yards.
I am puzzled what in the design, manufacturing, or lack of quality control, is causing it to shoot so inaccurately? To me, that is unacceptable for the legendary Smith & Wesson.
Rather than a "comp" toy, I would have really paid more for a "corrected" Body Guard 3.0.
Corrected:
Out of the box…
I'm probably just doing too much wishful thinking?
It's definitely NOT common to have sights off for me. No other firearm, I've owned since 1978 including Colt, Ruger, Charter Arms, Sig Sauer, Remington, KelTec, and Panther Arms, have had bad sights, accuracy, reliability, or out-of-the-box failures.
With that said, I really like my BG2 for a very concealable, light weight, comfortable pocket defense carry. So far it has shot 9 different brands with zero failures. I have a little over 250 through it, anxious to get to 500. I'm eager to get the ArmaLaser Trigger Guard Mounted green laser. The Talon grip on the rear of the slide was very big help with gripping and racking the slide. I have not yet decided to go to the XS Sights.
I don't use brass dowels to drift sights.
His POIs are very similar to what I experienced at 25 yards, not benched – very disappointed.
10 Yards: High/Left? – My BG2 POI has all been Left about 4", Low about 2". After drifting the front sight, it's now about 1 inch left and believe it or not the POI came up about 1 inch.
Cost: Not that important for my defense carry. $200 or $300 either way doesn't matter to me if my defense carry will shoot an A-Zone at 4 yards, 7 yards, and 15 yards.
I am puzzled what in the design, manufacturing, or lack of quality control, is causing it to shoot so inaccurately? To me, that is unacceptable for the legendary Smith & Wesson.
Rather than a "comp" toy, I would have really paid more for a "corrected" Body Guard 3.0.
Corrected:
Out of the box…
- Shoots POA/POI at 4, 7, and15 yards – preferably A-Zone hits
- Does not need chamber feed polished to shoot 3 popular defense ammo
- Does not need gunsmithing to fix the guide rod spring
- Less force to rack the slide
- A bright larger front sight dot, and a 2-dot rear sight. The tritium is nearly worthless and I won't be looking for it at night if I have a low light or night time encounter.
I'm probably just doing too much wishful thinking?
When I first heard about the comp.version. I thought at least look into it, but .... Not really interested in the comp version happy with what we have.. For awhile now my daily edc is the Shield + 3.1". Looked into the BG 2 and although it's not perfect, it fits the bill for warmer weather pocket carry. Both my son and myself have approx. 2k rounds through ours and no issues. And it disappears in our pockets. Well, we did drift the sights, but as mentioned it's for up close when/if needed. Anyway, too each his own, you like what you like...
I agree with that. I am not interested in comped guns anyway due to it pushing exhaust gas into your face or sights. But it's even worse on the BG2.0 because the whole point of the pistol is to be small and light. Adding more length and weight makes no sense. The review by Honest Outlaw implies that he had to buy a different holster for the comped version so that's another negative.
Honest Outlaw's review of the new Body Guard Comp.
His targets show the same issue with POA/POI as in the previous review.
So S&W has still not figured out, at its second attempt, how to manufacturer it so it hits where its aimed. WHY?
As stated before, added barrel length and weight for the comp port is no advantage for my needs.
I was waiting for him to drift the sight(s) to hear how he did it and with what method.
I am also curious to learn his choice for a pocket holster.
So S&W has still not figured out, at its second attempt, how to manufacturer it so it hits where its aimed. WHY?
As stated before, added barrel length and weight for the comp port is no advantage for my needs.
I was waiting for him to drift the sight(s) to hear how he did it and with what method.
I am also curious to learn his choice for a pocket holster.
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Comp version does not interest me at all. No comp guns interest me. The BG 2.0 I have is one of the greatest guns I have ever owned. Much better than any other 380 Auto I've ever owned.
I have not yet experienced my new BG2 being off. Then again TBH, today was my first time out with it. Didn't have a real good pattern....yet.....need to work with it some more. One thing I did notice was the rear sight was a little tough to pick up; fixed that with white Testors model paing. Coupla dots and we're good to go. Also have a handall jr coming since the handle, surprisingly, feels a little small.
I forgot to add that, for it's weight and size, recoil is great. I am not a fan of recoil; this one recoils a lot less than my usual EDC; a Bersa 380cc. The BG is roughly 7 ounces lighter, and a bit smaller than the Bersa. I guess the combination of the low bore axis, the locked breech barrel makes a bigger difference that I thought. I am/was pleasantly surprised. So far I like this little gun a lot!
Who is going to use a 380 at 25 yards plus??
I can understand shooting it out to 25 + for giggles to see what it can do but honestly folks, if you are using it for self defense you are max 15 yards. If you want something more, carry something different. I was able to remove and replace the sights on my wife's Shield Plus without too much effort. That guy might need to buy a sight removal/adjustment tool instead of a brass punch.
Am I wrong, do people really use the 380 for long distance shooting?
I can understand shooting it out to 25 + for giggles to see what it can do but honestly folks, if you are using it for self defense you are max 15 yards. If you want something more, carry something different. I was able to remove and replace the sights on my wife's Shield Plus without too much effort. That guy might need to buy a sight removal/adjustment tool instead of a brass punch.Am I wrong, do people really use the 380 for long distance shooting?
It occurred to me today to start on thread on 'impressions of the BG 2.0 Comp. Now, reading this thread, I have my answer. I cannot believe yet another disappointment.
At some point I will shoot all my toys at 25, but like you said just for giggle. And if I do that I am usually on a rest. For SD I "train" at 3, 5, and 10. Mostly point shooting at the closer ranges.Who is going to use a 380 at 25 yards plus??
Am I wrong, do people really use the 380 for long distance shooting?
