Round in Chamber

[LimaCharlie]

Most negligent discharges while carrying occur when the person puts their finger on the trigger while drawing from the holster or when they re-holster with one hand and clothing gets in the trigger guard. Practice not putting your finger on the trigger until you are ready to destroy what is in your sights. Practice re-holstering with two hands to clear clothing when you are carrying concealed.

Most negligent discharges occur when people know their weapon is empty and it really isn't while they are handling it or hand it to someone else. Older guns can go off if they are dropped and land on the hammer. Most modern handguns with safeties and transfer bars prevent them from going off when dropped. Make sure if you have an older gun how to carry it safely.

 

[Maddmax]

what kind of training would you reccomend?

anything i could do/practice from home or should i sign up for a safety class or two?

i live in md so i wont be ccw anytime soon but if part of the reason i got a firearm was/is personal protection in my home i'd like to have it with me.

i also have two kids under age 6 that like to wrestle. do any parents holster/unholster weapons when their kids start to climb all over them?

You should start at the very bottom and work up. The reason I say very bottom is so you don't miss anything new and it will take away anything you might just "assume" from what you heard from some one that heard it from some one else. I'd take the next safety class after basic safety, advancing all the way and through your safety class to get a carry permit. It will take care of all the "what to do when and what to do if" questions and "should-a, could-a, would-a" in different situations. You want to learn how to be safe and comfortable handling you weapon,before you actually start shooting it.

I play with the grandkids. I always secure my weapon first and leave no room for error. S happens and there is Murphy's law. Anything can and will go wrong. The grandkids as well as when the kids were small,they all were taught about my weapons and how they should be safe. It took away their basic curiosity about them. Then the older they got,the more they were able to have hands on and shooting.

 

[JPriest]

It is my understanding that with a striker fired weapon there is no cocked stage, so the striker is under no pressure to begin with, and it doesn't start to get sprung until the trigger is pulled at which time the trigger block also opens.

 

[Rastoff]

It is my understanding that with a striker fired weapon there is no cocked stage, so the striker is under no pressure to begin with, and it doesn't start to get sprung until the trigger is pulled at which time the trigger block also opens.

This is incorrect. The M&P is fully cocked when there is a round in the chamber. The M&P is a single action gun.

 

[Smitty357]

If you dont carry a round in the chamber, then u shouldnt be carrying a weapon to begin with. It is unfortunate that most people who dont carry a round chambered are the people who are scared the weapon my accidentally go off. If you train enough with your weapon you would know that the gun going off in ur holster my accident is very unlikely. You would have to be drawing the weapon, placing ur finger close to the triger, in order for it to go off. With that being said, u shouldnt even be "attempting" to draw your weapon unless ur life is threatened and u are left with no choice.

They are not toys, and they shouldnt be carried around as a toy. They should be taken serious at ALL times. And all weapons should be treated as LOADED weapons at ALL times. Which means if you practice safe handling (handling all firearms as if they are loaded). Then u shouldnt have any problem at all carrying a loaded weapon on you at all times.

When your life is threatened you will not have time to stop and say "Hold up let me chamber a round".

 

[jajo]

If you are not comfortable carrying a pistol with a chambered round then don't.

If you want to improve your skills, get formal training. Find a practical or defensive pistol course, then practice your new skills.


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[RussC]

Hey all, I have a bad habit as some people say that I do not keep a round in the chamber.

My question is do all of you?

Lastly, is there any possible way for the pistol to accidentally discharge without pressing the trigger? Since I do not have a thumb safety or anything on my M&P 9c.


Thank you.

Kevin

When I first started to conceal I was so nervous packing hot I would rack the gun empty and pack waiting for the weapon to go click in my pocket.

After a week of no clicks I mustered up the courage to pack hot.

2 years later I have complete confidence to safely conceal chambered.

My suggestion is to pack empty with weapon racked. You will soon realize the handgun will not go click unless you pull the trigger.

Invest in a good holster that covers the trigger and the material is thick enough that you can not touch trigger holstered.


I own a Desantis which meets all my safety needs.

Russ

 

[Dohmein]

I agree with either carrying a revolver or at least a semi auto (shield) for instance with a safety. A few friends carried without one in the chamber for a few weeks until they felt comfy. I carry a shield with the safety engaged and one in the chamber at all times. I feel more than comfortable doing this.

Previously I carried a 9c with no safety and one in the chamber, still felt perfectly comfortable but I will be honest - while I do not rely entirely on the safety on my shield but rather on my trigger finger I feel a little better having that safety and it being engaged and one in the chamber.

Good luck

 

[MSG Glenn]

I always carry with a round in the chamber. After jacking the round in I drop the magazine & add another round to it. At this time I have a Sigma 40VE while I'm waiting for delivery of my M&P 40C & by doing that I have 15 rounds loaded instead of the 14 the mag holds.

Always be aware of where your trigger finger is when drawing or reholstering the weapon. When you reholster check to make sure that the holster is clear of anything that can touch & pull the trigger with your finger laying straight next to the slide & a little off of it. Your trigger finger should slide outside of the holster when you're reholstered.

 

[Evofire34]

When I had me Bersa, it was chambered and decocked at all times with the safety off. As it was a SA/DA pistol, I could simply pull the trigger and it would fire. Or cock the hammer as I deholstered and fire.

With my M&P, it is chambered ready to fire at all times. Simply because racking the slide could mean life or death.

As far as children are involved, I am only around kids at my dads house, and its my nephews. If there is possibility of play/wrestling or anything like that, the gun comes off and goes 7 or more feet above the ground to one of 3 spots we know they CANNOT reach. If more then one of us takes our gun off (me, my dad, my brother, and my best friend all carry) then no 2 go in the same spot, as we make sure there is one in every room still. If no one will be in the room, the gun either gets put back on our hip, or put in my dads safe. But SOMEONE in the house is carrying a gun at all times. LOL. My parents live about 1 mile from the "ghetto" part of town. So while their neighbors and such are good people, there is at least once a week a car chase or foot chase that ends up in my parents neighborhood.

 

[shouldazagged]

Here's another vote for the revolver to ease your concern. I pocket carry a concealed-hammer J-frame in a Desantis Nemesis or Uncle Mike's pocket holster designed to stay in the pocket if the gun is drawn. The trigger is covered, and it would be damn near impossible to re-holster with one hand. Always ready to fire, near-zero (I said near zero, guys) risk of accidental discharge.

 

[shawn mccarver]

Hey all, I have a bad habit as some people say that I do not keep a round in the chamber.

My question is do all of you?

Lastly, is there any possible way for the pistol to accidentally discharge without pressing the trigger? Since I do not have a thumb safety or anything on my M&P 9c.


Thank you.

Assuming the M&P pistol is in proper working order, carrying with a round in the chamber is fine. The weapon will not just "go off" on its own.

Keep in mind, this is the way police carry them.

Remember, however, that the weapon does not have its own intelligence. Being a mechanical device, it will do what it was designed to do, which is discharge the chambered round if the trigger is pulled BY ANYTHING, whether that be your finger, the keys or lipstick in a pocket or purse or anything else that gets into the trigger guard.

If they were not safe to carry with a "round in," law enforcement would not do so. It has internal safeties like a well-designed revolver to prevent discharge if dropped, but if ANYTHING pulls the trigger, intentionally or not, it will go bang.

 

[plisken]

Round in chamber. The bad guys arent going to wait for you to chamber a round. If carryin a round in the pipe. If the trigger guard is covered and you dont pull the trigger it wont go off. Remember "Keep yer booger hook off the bang switch"

 

[snubbyfan]

Here's another vote for the revolver to ease your concern. I pocket carry a concealed-hammer J-frame in a Desantis Nemesis or Uncle Mike's pocket holster designed to stay in the pocket if the gun is drawn. The trigger is covered, and it would be damn near impossible to re-holster with one hand. Always ready to fire, near-zero (I said near zero, guys) risk of accidental discharge.

Same thing here, I carry a 442 either in my pocket or on my belt and I always make my holsters out of good stiff nine ounce leather that covers the trigger.

 

[smithman 10]

Get a revolver

Man here in Richmond last year shot himself in the leg either holstering or unholstering his Glock while getting in or out of his car. Or maybe he was carrying without a holster, I don't remember.

But, I do believe the report was that he bled to death in front of his wife and kid if I remember correctly. A tragedy.

Get a revolver. Ideally with an enclosed or bobbed hammer and standard weight trigger pull.

 

[zotzer]

I simply don't understand the "get a revolver" suggestions, regarding this subject. If you pull the trigger on a revolver, it will shoot you just as soundly.

Treat a loaded firearm with respect and *attentiveness* and you'll be just fine. That glock story above is a key example. If your hand is on a loaded firearm, it should be the ONE thing your attention is focused on in that moment....whether a revolver or semi-auto.

Tracy

 

[laskt9]

Oh look texs video makes another appearance. This happened a long time ago and if you had seen the whole video he posted himself he explains it very well. He switched from a thumb drive holster to one where the release is on the outside. He turned the safety off with his thumb and pulled up thinking the holster released his pro carry. Obviously he didn't and his finger slid into the trigger guard.



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[snubbyfan]

I simply don't understand the "get a revolver" suggestions, regarding this subject. If you pull the trigger on a revolver, it will shoot you just as soundly.

Treat a loaded firearm with respect and *attentiveness* and you'll be just fine. That glock story above is a key example. If your hand is on a loaded firearm, it should be the ONE thing your attention is focused on in that moment....whether a revolver or semi-auto.

Tracy

Revolvers generally have a longer harder trigger pull and there's no striker held back under spring pressure pointed at the primer. It makes some people uncomfortable thinking of a chambered round in a striker fired gun.
In all reality either gun is safe as long as you keep your finger off the trigger. I carry a revolver because I like them and I'm used to shooting them. Not because of any percieved safety difference.

 

[checkmyswag]

Do what works for you. What you described isn't what I prefer. Either be OK, with how you're doing it, know the limitations, train train train or get on board with how most people are carrying these days.

 

[JoeyEcko]

The M&P are designed with the purpuse of carry with chambered round with out the risk of going of as long as youre triger is not properly pulled, no need for thumb safety