Ruger REALLY sucks.

[Kanewpadle]

I think it would be a good thing if we quit piling on this guy. He's read the posts and I'm sure he gets the picture.

Maybe not. That's what's wrong with our society. Everybody wants what they want even if it's unreasonable. And when they don't get what they want they run to the internet and complain.

To the OP, no Ruger does not suck. And if it was really that easy to do you would have done it yourself.

 

[rog8732]

I think it would be a good thing if we quit piling on this guy. He's read the posts and I'm sure he gets the picture.

I don't see any posts I would consider "piling on".

I read them as a valid opinion of each of the responding poster's about the subject company;and, as a rebuttal to what O P states, about those "clowns" as he calls them.
And, there is a vast difference in his; and most everyone else's opinion.

Of course they will no longer sell a revolver cylinder that will require proper fitting by the buyer. What company today, with any sense of liability laws will ? Colt won't, S&W damn sure won't.

As to his, "reading the posts" and "getting the picture" ?
Seems like he already has his mind made up, so I doubt it.

I hate to seem him stop buying Ruger firearms. I know they are gonna miss him.

I Sure hope his lack of Ruger buying, does not deter Ruger from their pledge to donate up to a five million dollars to the N R A; so we can maybe keep our guns.

By the way, if he had referred to most of you, what he referred to the reps at Ruger, (coprophagic sycophants ); I expect most posts would have been a bit less kindly !

 

[vortex360]

I don't see any posts I would consider "piling on".

I read them as a valid opinion of each of the responding poster's about the subject company;and, as a rebuttal to what O P states, about those "clowns" as he calls them.
And, there is a vast difference in his; and most everyone else's opinion.

Of course they will no longer sell a revolver cylinder that will require proper fitting by the buyer. What company today, with any sense of liability laws will ? Colt won't, S&W damn sure won't.

As to his, "reading the posts" and "getting the picture" ?
Seems like he already has his mind made up, so I doubt it.

I hate to seem him stop buying Ruger firearms. I know they are gonna miss him.

I Sure hope his lack of Ruger buying, does not deter Ruger from their pledge to donate up to a five million dollars to the N R A; so we can maybe keep our guns.

By the way, if he had referred to most of you, what he referred to the reps at Ruger, (coprophagic sycophants ); I expect most posts would have been a bit less kindly !

Why beat a dead horse with such atrocious grammar skills? Your attempts at sarcasm is enough to give someone a migraine.

 

[Cal44]

I've had two problems with newly purchased Ruger LCRs.

In both cases, Ruger fixed the problems promptly and with no hassle.

Good fast service, and they paid shipping both ways.

 

[Absalom]

Why beat a dead horse with such atrocious grammar skills? Your attempts at sarcasm is enough to give someone a migraine.

This is a discussion forum. All we do is beat dead horses .

By the way, since you're complaining about grammar skills, "attempts" are plural, so it should be "Your attempts at sarcasm ARE enough...".

 

[Ptarmigan]

This is a discussion forum. All we do is beat dead horses .

Now that's a good one.

 

[pharmer]

This is a discussion forum. All we do is beat dead horses .

Sometimes there is discussion of vitally important issues. "Bacon" or "Biscuits and gravy" come to mind. Joe

 

[gwpercle]

Ruger is not in the business of creating one off firearms for individuals, this is the realm of "custom " shops.
You wouldn't call General Motors and expect them to build you a custom car to your exact specifications , then get mad when they said no , would you ? Custom car shops will build it, it's what they do. General Motors and Ruger are not custom makers....it's what they don't do.
Use some common sense when you need custom work done and go to the right shop for it.
Gary

 

[serger]

I think a little clarification is in order.

Installing a 45ACP cylinder on the Vaquero/Blackhawk frame is not hard at all. I've done it.

Ruger won't sell a cylinder because it requires "Factory Fitting" I dispute that because Ruger has very tight tolerances on their weapons. Because of that they are easy to work on and usually only light stoning is required to install parts.

There have been repeated references to my wanting a "custom gun" I dispute that. The old Vaquero was made between 93 to 05. During that time Ruger made "convertibles" with both the 45 Colt and 45ACP cylinders. What is custom about dropping a 45ACP cylinder in the revolver?

Old Vaqueros are fixed sight Blackhawks. And all my single actions are Rugers because they are Very tough and long lived.

As a point of interest, Blackhawks have been built as convertibles since at least 1982 where I saw my first 45Colt/ACP at the Rod and Gun club store at AF South in Naples Italy. This was about 6 weeks before the Marine Barracks in Beirut was taken out by the truck bomb.

Not much has changed in 34 years and they still hate our guts.

I have Rugers but won't buy "new" ones. I buy off the secondary market. I started this in 1980 after getting my first Mini-14 and finding out the 20 round factory magazines were "restricted".

Even though Old Man Ruger was a hell of an engineer he was born in Brooklyn and had that, for the want of a better phrase,
"yankee attitude" with respect to firearms access. As a result his company policies were and still are by my estimation, wrong.

Remember the magazine restrictions during the time of the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Act of 1994. Old Bill had his companies brown lipstick smudges all over that one.

I can now see Ruger's reticence at installing a cylinder on a revolver with the wrong roll mark. But in my defense I will say that Smith will at least sell you the parts if they have them. Ruger Won't.

Two other observations:

1. If it were not for Ruger's egregiously asinine Corporate Policies I would gladly be among the fanboys who thumped on me. Rugers are good machines.

2. I know I have several grammatical and syntatical errors in my response. I sincerely hope the Gods of the Copybook Headings (text Nazis) indulge my transgressions.

 

[35Rem]

Yep. Y'all were right. His mind is made up.

If you want a ruger convertible, buy one. If you want your gun modified or added to, go see a gunsmith. It's that's simple. They don't do what you asked.

 

[A10]

Sometimes there is discussion of vitally important issues. "Bacon" or "Biscuits and gravy" come to mind. Joe

You are correct. I prefer both......

 

[Muss Muggins]

. . . But in my defense I will say that Smith will at least sell you the parts if they have them. Ruger Won't . . .

I don't know about all that other stuff, but there are plenty of parts that S&W won't sell you that they still have in stock. Spend some time in some of the other forums here and you'll find similar frustrations played out. Seems like we just had one . . .

 

[PatriotX]

I think a little clarification is in order....

I have Rugers but won't buy "new" ones. I buy off the secondary market. I started this in 1980 after getting my first Mini-14 and finding out the 20 round factory magazines were "restricted".

So, you haven't given the company a dime in over 35 years - yet they should change their business model for a non-customer?

Even though Old Man Ruger was a hell of an engineer he was born in Brooklyn and had that, for the want of a better phrase,
"yankee attitude" with respect to firearms access. As a result his company policies were and still are by my estimation, wrong...

There are quite a few collectors and enthusiasts north of the Mason/Dixon line. Are our "Yankee attitudes" also wrong?


You've definitely added some clarification.

 

[A10]

There have been repeated references to my wanting a "custom gun" I dispute that. The old Vaquero was made between 93 to 05. During that time Ruger made "convertibles" with both the 45 Colt and 45ACP cylinders. What is custom about dropping a 45ACP cylinder in the revolver?
.

Modification of a firearm from original factory configuration is custom work......

 

[Vulcan Bob]

Yeah Ruger really sucks. My shooting partner and fellow forum member (I wont mention his name as I did not think to ask him for permission to reveal his business) had a problem with his late 50's vintage Flat Top .44 Mag, the stud in the barrel to attach the ejector rod asy pulled free of the barrel. This had happened before and was silver soldered back into place and failed again. Well he called Ruger to ask if they could repair it, they said yes but it would require a new barrel as they don't use the stud system any more. He said that was alright and if they could install a 4 5/8" barrel such as on the new Flat Top .44 Special has he would appreciate it. He pulled all the internals out and pulled the grips/stocks off and sent it off.

Well about three weeks later he received an E-Mail informing him his revolver was done and was shipped. Well it showed up and he was a bit apprehensive as to what was done and if a bill would be inside as well. What he found was his Flat Top with 4 5/8" barrel installed, nicely reblued with a set of old style walnut grips/stocks installed. Of course they installed the new transfer bar system and it was promptly removed and the old three screw parts reinstalled. The really surprising thing was an invoice that stated the work done and at no cost! Yeah, Ruger really sucks alright.

 

[Kanewpadle]

Like others, I have come to the conclusion that we are wasting our time.

Next subject?

 

[Ptarmigan]

I think it would be a good thing if we quit piling on this guy. He's read the posts and I'm sure he gets the picture.

Well, no good deed goes unpunished.

 

[deanodog]

45/45ACP....Who could not like this?

 

[Faulkner]

I think a little clarification is in order.

Installing a 45ACP cylinder on the Vaquero/Blackhawk frame is not hard at all. I've done it.

Ruger won't sell a cylinder because it requires "Factory Fitting" I dispute that because Ruger has very tight tolerances on their weapons. Because of that they are easy to work on and usually only light stoning is required to install parts.

There have been repeated references to my wanting a "custom gun" I dispute that. The old Vaquero was made between 93 to 05. During that time Ruger made "convertibles" with both the 45 Colt and 45ACP cylinders. What is custom about dropping a 45ACP cylinder in the revolver?

Old Vaqueros are fixed sight Blackhawks. And all my single actions are Rugers because they are Very tough and long lived.

As a point of interest, Blackhawks have been built as convertibles since at least 1982 where I saw my first 45Colt/ACP at the Rod and Gun club store at AF South in Naples Italy. This was about 6 weeks before the Marine Barracks in Beirut was taken out by the truck bomb.

Not much has changed in 34 years and they still hate our guts.

I have Rugers but won't buy "new" ones. I buy off the secondary market. I started this in 1980 after getting my first Mini-14 and finding out the 20 round factory magazines were "restricted".

Even though Old Man Ruger was a hell of an engineer he was born in Brooklyn and had that, for the want of a better phrase,
"yankee attitude" with respect to firearms access. As a result his company policies were and still are by my estimation, wrong.

Remember the magazine restrictions during the time of the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Act of 1994. Old Bill had his companies brown lipstick smudges all over that one.

I can now see Ruger's reticence at installing a cylinder on a revolver with the wrong roll mark. But in my defense I will say that Smith will at least sell you the parts if they have them. Ruger Won't.

Two other observations:

1. If it were not for Ruger's egregiously asinine Corporate Policies I would gladly be among the fanboys who thumped on me. Rugers are good machines.

2. I know I have several grammatical and syntatical errors in my response. I sincerely hope the Gods of the Copybook Headings (text Nazis) indulge my transgressions.

After all the critical feedback from the original post, I thought this was a level headed response. Fair enough, good on you serger!

 

[DocB]

Well, I have no use for Ruger handguns. If I want the SAA style, I buy a Uberti. I did buy a new Bearcat about a year ago. . .my last Ruger mistake. After a little shooting, you can only cock the hammer if you point the barrel of the gun up toward the sky. . .new safety feature I guess. I could fix it; but, it just isn't worth my time or trouble. I don't know why I bought it. Just a stupid day for me, I guess.