We already had chinese agents use drones on sensitive installations multiple times. Only recon for now.. But they have been doing this for YEARS
Russia's 'Pearl Harbor'
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From Grandfather Frost and the Snow Maiden, most likely.
Ha thats a good one! Also how do you know that? That is a rather specific reference.
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For better or worse, we may be seeing the apex of manned combat aircraft. With more tech and AI, multiple drones will take over many missions.
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I have worked within sight of Russia and got to know some really nice Armenians, Georgians, and Ukrainians. Some of the most hospitable folks anywhere, IMO.
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I have read that the Ukrainians are right now using drones (air and sea) to successfully replace artillery. More accurate, longer range, and cheaper. Last week I read a neat article about the innovative and effective ways they are using drones as weapons. If I can find it, I’ll post it. Really eye-opening stuff. Sort of like when aircraft carriers made battleships obsolete and artillery replaced catapults. I think this is it. https://www.cfr.org/expert-brief/ukraines-operation-spiders-web-shows-future-drone-warfare
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It actually even goes back further than that. Kiev is considered the birthplace of both Russia and Ukraine. I think Estonia as well, but I am honestly not sure. Russia wants Kiev and Putin wants to be the one to get it. That would secure him historical glory. This statement is NOT an endorsement of Putin, just pointing out a motivation. This is essentially a family feud that I believe we in the US should stay out of. Admittedly, staying out of it may be Ukraine's downfall, but I feel this conflict will be going on long after we reading this forum will be dust.
My gf is of Russian descent and collects palekh (miniature lacquered boxes, often depicting Russian folk tales post-Revolution ; originally religious iconography). I think she may have one of snegurochka (Снегу́рочка)
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That's certainly the easy way out, isn't it? No pesky moral judgements about killing children and civilians, kidnapping and indoctrination of children they don't kill, rape, invasion, bombing hospitals. Or, for that matter, the Soviet deliberate starvation of 7 million Ukrainians who were Russian citizens during Holodomor for the audacity at the time of seeking to regain their independence.
There is right and there is deep wrong in this war that Putin has started; we can see from the methods and results who is murdering civilians, kidnapping children, allowing rape as a byproduct of invasion, all which I hope we can agree are wrong.
Family feud, indeed. Not in my family.
Slava Ukraini!!!
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You aren't wrong, not at all. I just feel that it's bigger than the current conflict. Russia has adopted a time proven strategy that I wish conservatives would adopt and that is "the death of a thousand cuts". There is no way that Putin doesn't let this end without a "little win". There just isn't. Russia is one of the world's super-powers and will get something from this. Then, in a few years, there will be another war, and Russia will end up gaining a little more, until the world gives up on Ukraine and Russia gets what it wants. I don't like it or condone it, but short of a full on world war, I don't see it stopping. I wish I had the solution, I do. I fear that we are on the brink of something really big breaking out in the near future. Eventually, the tensions and wants between China, the US, and Russia will break and things will gt out of hand. I hope intelligent people are in charge on all sides when it does, but I doubt it,
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But it's not just Ukraine Putin wants. The Finns and the Baltic nations understand this, as does Moldova and does Poland.
Putin has burned through a million Russian casualties, 250,000 dead, since the war began for less territory than his proxies controlled before the invasion. This isn't about land.
For perspective, we lost 418,500 military dead in all of World War 2. https://www.secondworldwarhistory.com/world-war-2-statistics.php
Putin has burned through a million Russian casualties, 250,000 dead, since the war began for less territory than his proxies controlled before the invasion. This isn't about land.
For perspective, we lost 418,500 military dead in all of World War 2. https://www.secondworldwarhistory.com/world-war-2-statistics.php
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There cannot be much disagreement that the goal of Ukraine conflict is just the initial phase of the ultimate reassembly of the former USSR states and its Cold War era satellites, plus some.
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Fighting yeah thats why the invaded Chechnya twice, Georgia, Tadjikistan, Dagestan, Abkhazia. That is not even counting over military threats and covert interference. NATO did not encroach, russians neighbors ran for safety to NATO because Russia pushed them there.
A little O/T again, but she just sent me this photo of one of her palekh boxes. (She sent another one of snegurochka and a fox with a castle in the background I'll have to ask her about.)
My gf is of Russian descent and collects palekh (miniature lacquered boxes, often depicting Russian folk tales post-Revolution ; originally religious iconography). I think she may have one of snegurochka (Снегу́рочка)
All talk….
I certainly am glad the French didn't have this train of thought back in 1776.
I read where the drones that recently attacked all bombers at the Russian Air force base used simple warheads taken off of RPG-7 and RPG-9 rocket launchers. They added an extra detonator to the tip of the warhead to insure detonation upon hitting a soft surface.
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Yes. Until Putin quits, dies, or is removed. He's already proven his military isn't up to the taking of Ukraine a million casualties later.
