BOMBTEC
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LOAD WAD CUTTER'S
A load of hollow base wad cutter's loaded BACKWARDS give you a nice "nickle" sized splatter!
A load of hollow base wad cutter's loaded BACKWARDS give you a nice "nickle" sized splatter!
S&W 442: To quote Carly Simon...
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And here I thought you were going to sing "Nobody does it Better."
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DeSantis Clip Grip
Clip Grips on a #442 will make you forget you are packing. Problem is, they beat the **** out of the web in your shooting hand. TRADE OFF IS you carry it a whole lot more than you shoot it; Better than leaving it because it is too heavy or hard to conceal.
Clip Grips on a #442 will make you forget you are packing. Problem is, they beat the **** out of the web in your shooting hand. TRADE OFF IS you carry it a whole lot more than you shoot it; Better than leaving it because it is too heavy or hard to conceal.
Feedback on 442 from the guy who bought it from me
I sold another pistol this weekend to the fellow who bought my 442. I mentioned the swollen nerve or whatever it was at the base of my thumb from shooting it had finally returned to normal size and feeling. I asked him how he liked shooting it.
He said he took it out with the Perfecta .38 Special 158 grain ammo I had given him when he bought the gun. He said it was quite a kicker to the web of his hand, so he was kind enough to share that with his fellow shooters. They agreed with his opinion of the gun and didn't ask to keep firing it.
He did say he changed the ammo to a lower grain and the result was a much more comfortable gun that he could shoot at the range without the discomfort.
I am glad it worked for him, because it pounded me!
I sold another pistol this weekend to the fellow who bought my 442. I mentioned the swollen nerve or whatever it was at the base of my thumb from shooting it had finally returned to normal size and feeling. I asked him how he liked shooting it.
He said he took it out with the Perfecta .38 Special 158 grain ammo I had given him when he bought the gun. He said it was quite a kicker to the web of his hand, so he was kind enough to share that with his fellow shooters. They agreed with his opinion of the gun and didn't ask to keep firing it.
He did say he changed the ammo to a lower grain and the result was a much more comfortable gun that he could shoot at the range without the discomfort.
I am glad it worked for him, because it pounded me!
BUFF
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Some stocks and grips and some hands just don't go together. Continuing Carly's song, "They'll hurt you, then dessert you..."
The S&W wooden finger groove grips bang me hard at the base of the thumb and the base of the index finger and hurt. The shape doesn't work for my hand. It's not just the quantity of recoil that matters, it's where that recoil comes ashore in your hand.
The revolver has a big advantage over the semiauto pistol in that there are literally hundreds of different grips available you can try. The autopistol's grip frame needs to be a certain size and shape because it houses the magazine. You can generally make the stocks on one bigger, mebbe smoother or checkier (I just made up that word), but you can't make them smaller or much differently shaped; the pistol's frame limits that. It's an unusual revolver for which you can't find a grip or stocks that won't hurt your hand.
The S&W wooden finger groove grips bang me hard at the base of the thumb and the base of the index finger and hurt. The shape doesn't work for my hand. It's not just the quantity of recoil that matters, it's where that recoil comes ashore in your hand.
The revolver has a big advantage over the semiauto pistol in that there are literally hundreds of different grips available you can try. The autopistol's grip frame needs to be a certain size and shape because it houses the magazine. You can generally make the stocks on one bigger, mebbe smoother or checkier (I just made up that word), but you can't make them smaller or much differently shaped; the pistol's frame limits that. It's an unusual revolver for which you can't find a grip or stocks that won't hurt your hand.
Blackshirt
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Yes, J-Frames batter me with +P ammo. I'm not really recoil sensitive, but I feel the difference. For those that find their Airweight too snappy, I suggest that you try standard-pressure Nyclad cartridges (if you can find them). The recoil is much softer, but the terminal performance is pretty good...
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gwpercle
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I can't believe you threw in the towel without at least trying Pachmayer's or Ahrend's . The Pachmayer grips worked well, they was just not that good looking . Ahrend's Concealed Carry Boot Grips , in dark red cocobolo , were just the ticket .
Kim Ahrend does an exceptional job of designing proper fitting and good looking grips .
Oh well , too late now the deed is done.
Gary
Kim Ahrend does an exceptional job of designing proper fitting and good looking grips .
Oh well , too late now the deed is done.
Gary
Officerblue
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Some of the not so younger officers have worked with the range master and modified the way they hold the pistol. Also a grip sleeve might help absorb some of the bite. Good luck
Frank121, first welcome to the forum.
I like you, don't like shooting a J frame with serous stuff ammo. To help, to some extent, I went with a custom set of stag grips and a grip adapter. I'm not sure the expense of the stag grips was necessary, but the $30.00 cost of the grip adapter sure was worth the $$.
Best of luck whatever you decide to do.
I like you, don't like shooting a J frame with serous stuff ammo. To help, to some extent, I went with a custom set of stag grips and a grip adapter. I'm not sure the expense of the stag grips was necessary, but the $30.00 cost of the grip adapter sure was worth the $$.
Best of luck whatever you decide to do.
Rpg
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I guess I'm lucky: the original wood grips on my M38 plus a Tyler t works well for me.
That said, these handguns are tough to master. Takes lots of time and reasonable practice sessions: 50 rounds is a whole lot all at once.
Ammo makes a difference as well. I shoot hand loads in either 148 gr wc or 158 gr cast swc's.
It's what I carry for sd in my revolver as well.
If you stay away from the boutique ammo and +p stuff, you'll be happier, and still be well able to protect yourself. Don't get caught up in comparing ballistic gel photos and trivial differences in velocity.
Pay no attention to foot pounds of energy trumpeted in the tables. Not a good metric for determining handgun effectiveness.
That said, these handguns are tough to master. Takes lots of time and reasonable practice sessions: 50 rounds is a whole lot all at once.
Ammo makes a difference as well. I shoot hand loads in either 148 gr wc or 158 gr cast swc's.
It's what I carry for sd in my revolver as well.
If you stay away from the boutique ammo and +p stuff, you'll be happier, and still be well able to protect yourself. Don't get caught up in comparing ballistic gel photos and trivial differences in velocity.
Pay no attention to foot pounds of energy trumpeted in the tables. Not a good metric for determining handgun effectiveness.
I feel you pain! My approach is this. I carry a 340pd full of .357 in my left front pocket and a 686 3" on my right hip. If I am down to the 340 in a critical situation, I will be feeling NO pain if/when I have to use it. Odds are you will be down to a close quarters situation. Summary, carry a larger second firearm.
Sorry, I said that incorrectly. Carry a larger PRIMARY firearm.
Sorry, I said that incorrectly. Carry a larger PRIMARY firearm.
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sooper44
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Been carrying/shooting a 442 for nearly a year. No pain yet. Factory grips. Good shooter.
I so agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So many guys claim these lightweight guns never hurt them and I would just love to see someone shoot a full box of 50 rounds of .38 Special, never mind .357 Magnum when they'll fit certain models, and then tell me it doesn't hurt. I won't believe it until I see it. J frames are designed to be carried a lot and shot VERY little, especially lightweight ones. Anyone says different - well - I don't call anyone a liar but I'd like to see it proven to me. I've been shooting these little guns for years and the differenc ebetween a J-frame and even a snubbie K-frame is night and day.
Someday someone will take up my challenge - in my presence - 50 rounds.
Oh, 50 rounds accurately at, say, ten yards will get a gold star!
NO GLOVES!
I'm not a hater, I had a 642 with me all weekend, but I switched to a M10 as soon as I came back home.
So many guys claim these lightweight guns never hurt them and I would just love to see someone shoot a full box of 50 rounds of .38 Special, never mind .357 Magnum when they'll fit certain models, and then tell me it doesn't hurt. I won't believe it until I see it. J frames are designed to be carried a lot and shot VERY little, especially lightweight ones. Anyone says different - well - I don't call anyone a liar but I'd like to see it proven to me. I've been shooting these little guns for years and the differenc ebetween a J-frame and even a snubbie K-frame is night and day.
Someday someone will take up my challenge - in my presence - 50 rounds.
Oh, 50 rounds accurately at, say, ten yards will get a gold star!
NO GLOVES!
I'm not a hater, I had a 642 with me all weekend, but I switched to a M10 as soon as I came back home.
