S&W Model 19 announcement

Want.

I'm a sucker for the Classics. I have a 27-9 and 586-8, and I love them as much as my 1970 production P&R 19-3. I have my 586 and 19 sittting together right now and darn if I can tell a substantial quality difference. S&W does a great job with the Classic line, and I don't mind the lock but I'd be tickled pink if they started releasing Classic guns without them and even more so if they regressed engineering changes to the 1960s :) . It could be done with all that CNC machinery. But then I'd go bankrupt from trading guns to get them all. So it's just as well for me that they don't because my hubby would KILL me! Mama's into wheelguns ;)
 
Cat91 said:
Want.

I'm a sucker for the Classics. I have a 27-9 and 586-8, and I love them as much as my 1970 production P&R 19-3. I have my 586 and 19 sittting together right now and darn if I can tell a substantial quality difference. S&W does a great job with the Classic line, and I don't mind the lock but I'd be tickled pink if they started releasing Classic guns without them and even more so if they regressed engineering changes to the 1960s :) . It could be done with all that CNC machinery. But then I'd go bankrupt from trading guns to get them all. So it's just as well for me that they don't because my hubby would KILL me! Mama's into wheelguns ;)
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It a way, it's probably better that they don't roll everything (and I do mean everything) back to the "good old days" as that smacks of producing "counterfeits" rather than producing an updated, new technology "replica" of the originals. :o I'm also certain that the cost would be prohibitive, CNC technology notwithstanding. :o Could you even do it (and do it right) without extensive trained gunsmithing labor? :confused: I don't think so. :o

Folks read me and sometimes think that I am just an old curmudgeon who hates the IL and MIM parts. The honest truth is that I probably own more S&W handguns right now with MIM parts than handguns without... and it doesn't bother me a bit. It's really many other aspects of the mothership's revolver art (and I do consider it "art") that would never motivate me to get really excited over a modern manufacturing technique-produced replica. The truth is that I'd be far more likely to buy a brand new S&W revolver design from the mothership than one trying to be something that it isn't. :cool: Example: I still have a Model 442-1 on my Want List. :) Go figure! ;)
 
Green Frog said:
I hope this doesn't qualify as whining or b1+¢h1ng, but it just strikes me as wrong to simply take an old model number, apply it to a pretty much standard current production "new improved" gun, and call it a "Classic." Kinda like "New Old Fashioned." I guess it's just me, but that seems so very contradictory.

Froggie
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I believe that practice was made famous by Coca Cola.
 
I am definitely in for one! And folks, don't go by the MSRP. Those will probably be priced close to a hundred dollars less than that once they make it to the dealers shelves. Still pricey, but IMO worth it.
 
If they would make it in the famous S&W nickel finish I would probably spring for one. But I'm not too enamored with the present blue job that S&W uses. To me it doesn't look as good as the old carbonia blue they used to use and it also doesn't seem to hold up as well either. I do have a model 27 made around 1991 or so, after they had switched from the carbonia process to a newer process and it doesn't seem to hold up as well.
 
With all the back and forth about the
merits of the "Classic" I've been waiting
for some one to bring up that Smith should
return to its "short throw" hammers.
 
Invictus357 said:
Not one on gunbroker.

Anyone know when SW is releasing this model?
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I would like to know this as well. This is only a guess on my part, but I suspect they may not make it to market until later this year or early next.

I am most definitely buying one!
 
This would have made my dad smile. He was bummed when they quit making the model 19. He carried a nickel 19-3 and was one of the few pistols he kept through the years. He'd always pause the few times we went to a gun show together to look at a model 19, and shudder at the price a NIB 19 was going for. I never asked him what he paid for his in the 70s, but I imagine it was a fraction of what they go for now-a-days.

I'd like to add either a more robust .357 and have been eyeing a older supposed newer-fired 686 aways away... and the 66-8 since it came out. I think I'd probably stick with stainless (my dad's, which is suppose is mine now, is nickel) because it have bluing-wear-anxiety. I've got to find something to feed magnums through. I'll throw 1000 wadcutters through the 19 per one 158 gr. magnum (and never... ever anything lighter) for fear of cracking the forcing cone. It's still my dad's gun in my eyes and it'd break my heart to wreck it. I've got a couple if 10s... but that's my only .357.
 
UncleEd said:
With all the back and forth about the
merits of the "Classic" I've been waiting
for some one to bring up that Smith should
return to its "short throw" hammers.
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S&W has stuck with short throw hammers since standardizing them in 1948. Only the shape of the spur changed then the method of making them.
 
CapnB said:
Makes me wonder who their target demographic is for these. Many my age won't own one with a lock, and many, if not most, younger folks seem to prefer semi-autos. With the REAL "classics" still fairly abundant, where do these fit in? Personally, I don't need any brand new S&W's, but I believe having them remain in business certainly enhances our hobby, and I'm sure they've done their market research, but it would be fun to know exactly what they're thinking sometimes. Good shootin',
Doug
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If you look at the California Pistol Roster and Blue state Semi-Auto bans guns like these make a lot of sense you do NOT fall into a black gun category and people like us will buy them.

Even though revolver's are selling a lot a revolver revival is happening.

We are in the 2nd coming of the 10mm I believe it now that a GP100 10mm 6 shot exists.

I know guys who wives make their lives with guns a living hell. Guns like these get in the house.
 
The new 19 will be a good shooter just like the 66-8 is. I gave mine to my son as a wedding present and have regretted it every day since.

Would such a gun ever be so coveted as my Highway Patrolman? Of course not, but the new guns are great shooters and I will buy another one.
 

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S&W made an L-frame 44 magnum and it is holding up quite well with a steady diet of full magnum loads . I have no doubt the new 19's/66's will do the same with 357 magnum loads .
The down fall of any make of 357 , be it Smith , Ruger , Colt etc is the usage of light weight bullets , 125 gr or less . That is what eats up forcing cones if loaded with max charges of W296-H110 ( ball / spherical powders ) . Use the light weight bullets , but in a 38spl load . For the 357 , the lightest I would recommend is 140 gr . That long cylinder on the 19's / 66's is made ideally for the " Keith swc " , 173 gr ( Lyman 358429) . Seat that bullet on top of 7.0 grs of Unique , 7.5 WSF or 13.5 grs of Alliant 2400 and you have 2 perfect loads for midrange and 1 upper end load . You will wear out before the gun does . Regards, Paul
 
I have been watching gunbroker and my online sellers like crazy and they are starting to show up. First one I have seen available was online this afternoon. I bought one. $800 even with shipping and no CC charge. A little high, I know, but as the 19 is one of my all time favorite revolvers I couldn't help but grab it.
 
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cowboy4evr said:
S&W made an L-frame 44 magnum and it is holding up quite well with a steady diet of full magnum loads . I have no doubt the new 19's/66's will do the same with 357 magnum loads .
The down fall of any make of 357 , be it Smith , Ruger , Colt etc is the usage of light weight bullets , 125 gr or less . That is what eats up forcing cones if loaded with max charges of W296-H110 ( ball / spherical powders ) . Use the light weight bullets , but in a 38spl load . For the 357 , the lightest I would recommend is 140 gr . That long cylinder on the 19's / 66's is made ideally for the " Keith swc " , 173 gr ( Lyman 358429) . Seat that bullet on top of 7.0 grs of Unique , 7.5 WSF or 13.5 grs of Alliant 2400 and you have 2 perfect loads for midrange and 1 upper end load . You will wear out before the gun does . Regards, Paul
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..most true but unfortunately if one is carrying a .357 Magnum for personal defense the most effective load is a 125 JHP at 1400 fps...

My first cenerfire handgun was a 1970 Model 19-3. It ate up 10K rounds of .357 Magnum reloads mostly with the cast Lyman/Thompson gas check bullet at 1200 fps...only six rounds of .38 Special were ever fired through the gun. Went back to the factory in 1976 to be tightened up and nickel plated. Was shot another 10K and sold about 1980...so you are right...with a moderate lead bullet load they will outlast most shooters....

Nice to see that S&W is bringing back another updated Classic.

Bob
 
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