Saw Some Guy OC'ing Today. Scary!

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kbm6893 said:
It was a stainless 1911 with the hammer back and safety on. Two stainless mags on his weak side. Since 1911's are made by so many manufacturers, who knows what manufacturer made it?

Jeez. People who are gonna tl me hey can't tell when a person is mentally challenged? Do I know if it was autism or aspergers? Of course not. Never claimed to be a doctor. All I know is I am concerned when I see a person who probably got extra time on all his tests in school ( it's called an IEP- individual education plan) or more likely due to his age wasn't even mainstreamed into a regular class, carrying a deadly weapon where you DONT get extra time to make a decision, I don't like it. When I see a person of apparently normal intelligence who doesn't require an aide to follow him around, I just think "here comes Rambo" since I never see it near me. Pretty much everybody I know around here owns guns. Most carry them concealed
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Being someone who had an IEP in school, this really ticked me off, I have a TBI resulting in ADHD like symptoms, I got extra time on tests, the option to type my essays rather than hand write them etc.

I'm "normal" when it comes to reaction time, hand eye coordination. I play sports recreationally on a level with my "normal" friends, rode a bike and I never ended up in traffic because my brain was slow to react. Taking a test on paper is a separate brain function than being situationally aware, identifying a potential threat, de-escalating a situation, dealing with a threat if necessary.

You would never know I have my brain injury unless you sit me down and make me take a test or write a paper. I will have to politely disagree with your notion that academic performance is a measure of a person's mental ability as a whole.
 
dtm_oskar said:
off duty when they have the choice basically all LEO's carry concealed, the statistics are out there that cops get killed with their own weapon all the time.
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Around here, cops carry open all the time, plain clothes or uniform, on or off duty. I'm not sure when such carry became popular, but it's been very common for several years. I agree that cops get killed with their own weapon far too often.
 
dtm_oskar said:
Being someone who had an IEP in school, this really ticked me off, I have a TBI resulting in ADHD like symptoms, I got extra time on tests, the option to type my essays rather than hand write them, etc.
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That hole just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn't it? :D

I'll have the courage to come forward and say that I fall within the autism spectrum and have "weird" behavioral quirks that would probably set our OP on edge. Funny, though... I know right from wrong, was never committed or declared a danger to myself or others, never had any arrests for violent or criminal behavior, yet I get the feeling I'd not be spared from the abridgement of my civil rights and property because some medical health professional adjudiciated my ability to have such things or my childhood psych records were added to the NICS. But it's "for the children" and "if it can save even one life," right? Only those "fit for de faterland" deserve to own the means to protect themselves. :rolleyes:
 
dtm_oskar said:
off duty when they have the choice basically all LEO's carry concealed, the statistics are out there that cops get killed with their own weapon all the time.
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According the most recent FBI statistics it would be more correct to say that police officers are very rarely killed with their own weapon.

◾In 2011, 72 law enforcement officers were feloniously killed in the line of duty.

◾Of officers killed in 2011, most (63) were killed with firearms. Of these, 50 were killed with handguns.

◾3 officers were killed with their own weapons
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◾In 2012, 48 law enforcement officers died from injuries incurred in the line of duty during felonious incidents.

◾Of officers killed in 2012, most (44) were killed with firearms. Of these, 32 were killed with handguns.

◾1 officer was killed with his/her own weapon.
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FBI ? LEOKA

Regardless this is pretty far offtopic...
 
Muss Muggins said:
I maintain my original comment on this particular matter. That is still far too often.
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Of course any homicide is tragic, I was merely pointing out that (since the previous poster claimed that it happens "all the time") the incidence of police officers being shot with their own weapon is statistically insignificant and should not be used to support the notion that open carry is likely to get you killed.
 
b_san said:
Of course any homicide is tragic, I was merely pointing out that (since the previous poster claimed that it happens "all the time") the incidence of police officers being shot with their own weapon is statistically insignificant and should not be used to support the notion that open carry is likely to get you killed.
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I would also agree with that analysis.
 
Alpha Sierra said:
So......

Do you ever go to public or private gun ranges/clubs in Michigan? If so, why? By your own admission you suspect that anyone without a license could be a dangerous nut for all you know.

Now, given your admission, and the fact that Michigan has absolutely ZERO licensing requirement for the ownership of any type of firearms, would you be considered a hypocrite if you said "yes, I do go to shooting ranges and don't feel uneasy at all"?

Think it through before answering, will ya?
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Don't have to, thought it thru already. First, Michigan has zero licensing requirements? Try buying an M-249 SAW without an FFL and auto weapon tax stamp. I go to the range at least once a week, and no, I don't trust anyone I don't know. If it gets too crowded, I leave. Did I pass?
 
I find the posts by KBM6893 to be in very bad taste and a show of disrespect.

Not only for his statements on how he sees fit to judge others not breaking the law on how they should carry a firearm his way. His misguided understanding of IEPs and what they are and how he judges people by their use.

It is personal too. My 20 year old son with Aspergers that holds two jobs, a driver's license, State of New Jersey Firearm License for long guns is now being judged to be like a mass murderer.
I will keep it nice, but I will tell you that where I come from, you would get more then your feelings hurt talking like that around here.
 
Maze 686 said:
I find the posts by KBM6893 to be in very bad taste and a show of disrespect.

Not only for his statements on how he sees fit to judge others not breaking the law on how they should carry a firearm his way. His misguided understanding of IEPs and what they are and how he judges people by their use.
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I totally agree. It was obvious right from his first post that he thinks he should decide who is competent to own firearms and that he has no respect for either the disabled or women.

Read all three pages. If his comments were directed toward ethnic minorities, this thread would have been shut down immediately.
 
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MichiganScott said:
I totally agree. It was obvious right from his first post that he thinks he should decide who is competent to own firearms and that he has no respect for either the disabled or women.

Read all three pages. If his comments were directed toward ethnic minorities, this thread would have been shut down immediately.
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I guess I should be really upset, I'm a disabled ethnic minority but actually I find it more entertaining than anything else.
 
Donn said:
Don't have to, thought it thru already. First, Michigan has zero licensing requirements? Try buying an M-249 SAW without an FFL and auto weapon tax stamp. I go to the range at least once a week, and no, I don't trust anyone I don't know. If it gets too crowded, I leave. Did I pass?
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That's not a Michigan requirement . . .
 
Smoke said:
I'm sorry but I find this extremely annoying.

What makes it OK for you to interject yourself into someone else's life and castigate them because they're not doing it your way ?

Did you somehow think that anything you said was going to change their POV or that they'd suddenly "see the light" and mend their wicked ways?

I don't like being approached by random strangers. When it happens my mind starts processing it like an interview and I tend to go into "Orange" mode.

Add to that the random stranger appears fixated on my weapon and I would very likely blade up on you and tell you to get out of my space now.

What are you going to do when you go to drop your pearls of wisdom and you get a reaction like that?
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I don't know what Orange mode means. Is that open carry code or something?

I didn't say anything because if they were dumb enough to open carry, my pearls of wisdom were not going to make a difference.

I will say this though. People who open carry, in general, are looking for attention, looking for some kind of open carry "encounter" with a cop, and absolutely hurt the cause of what we care about which is preserving our right to bear arms.

There are enough people out there trying to make things harder for us. I live in Connecticut, and my rights have been severely rescinded, and two wing nuts open carrying is going to help?

Please.
 
So before the nitrogen enriched streaming contest ensued....what was this thread about?

Open carry people? Or one guy upon whom swift judgement was passed? The bottom line for me is Kbm6893....If you're the police and you thought something was wrong with the situation...

WHY DIDN'T YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT???

Because you just wanted to rant to us about it and be affirmed by internet people? Or because deep down you knew that you didn't have a leg to stand on?

You're not giving the police a good name with this post fella. You either failed to act or support the infringement of the Second Amendment. Kindly clarify which it is.
 
Tom_R said:
How do you know I was outnumbered?

Were you there?

Also, quoting a member and changing the text of their quote is bush league, and is probably against the rules.
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OC is legal in Ct, is it not? If you're so against it then join Malloy in his efforts to restrict gun rights.
 
I'll vote for closing this thread. I find arguments on all sides that are honest reactions to a specific situation. You can't judge without evidence.

The banter has validity, but second-guessing is only that.
 
It should be closed...and KBM6893 should be admonished for his several violations of the rules of conduct.
 
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