Seecamp 32

Don't know about Seecamp's WW2 experience, but amongst the OSS, SOE and some others, they trained using the Fairbairn-Sykes-Applegate method mostly with DA revolvers. Bullseyes Don't Shoot Back is a good textbook.

Old school FBI revolver point shooting videos are also informative.
 
Don't know about Seecamp's WW2 experience, but amongst the OSS, SOE and some others, they trained using the Fairbairn-Sykes-Applegate method mostly with DA revolvers. Bullseyes Don't Shoot Back is a good textbook.

Old school FBI revolver point shooting videos are also informative.
That wouldn’t help a German Army Private in 1942 on the Russian front in Hand to Hand combat.
 
Interesting seeing "precision shooting" and Seecamp used in the same sentence. ;)
I don't know about others, but my example keyholes with all ammo that I've tried. When I called Seecamp customer service, their first question was, " is this about keyholing"? She basically said, it is what it is, live with it. :D
Larry put a note in the box that spoke to that, saying it was preferred by some using a certain ammo. I’m sure that note is still in my box.

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Walther P-38 is DA on the first shot.

He was German Army and a Russian soldier was on top of him. The first trigger pull never ignited the bullet. The second trigger pull did get the Russian off him.

If he had to do a Tap Rack like a SA pistol he would be dead.

Thanks.

Don't need to tap/rack a SA such as a 1911 to second-strike a primer, just pull back the hammer, right? Perhaps Seecamp felt a second trigger pull is a better alternative.

Or maybe he was comparing the P-38 to Germany's other service pistol, the Luger? In which case, the toggle has to be pulled back a short distance to re-cock the firing pin.
 
Back in the 1990s I remember cops paying $1000 for one as they were hard to get.


That is precisely the reason why you could get $1000 for an LWS32 back then ... Low production volume coming out of Milford, CT, coupled with long wait times for new factory orders, & high demand (particularly among the law enforcement community) created the perfect storm to drive resale prices through the roof.

The old cornerstone principle of "Economics 101" ... supply & demand.
 
Based on your serial number, yours would be a 1991-92 production model.

Here ya' go...


Now, the LWS32 manufacturing date chart won't help you pin down the year of production for custom serial numbered guns, but I think this serial number might give you some insight as to when this particular pistol was "born"...

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The little Seecamp pistols are very nicely made.
The 32acp is rated for HP specific rds only, but the 25acp edition was sold as able to work with any HP or FMJ ammo. Just to stay away from the use of aluminum cased ammo use.

Both rds are 'semi-rimmed' cases. That they can rim-lock is a possibility I guess. But why the 32 would be a problem and not the 25 ?

They do make these statements:

"__The LWS .32 was designed around the original Silvertip cartridge. Initially, we tried to get the pistol to shoot everything, including ball ammo."

"We quickly learned, however, that the problem of potential jams caused by random shuffling of rounds within a magazine because of excess play, now popularly referred to as rim lock, was something we had to take seriously. Rather than to have a pistol that marginally functioned with a variety of ammo, we opted to produce one that was maximally reliable with Silvertips – the only hollow point available to us at the time. For this reason, we provided spacers for our magazines."

Also:
"--Magazines start out with ammo preferences and will in time also develop ammo preferences. A magazine designed to accommodate ball ammo invites rim lock and other feed failures with hollow points due to excessive front to back slop, and a magazine that is regularly used with a particular type of ammunition will adapt to form a liking for that configuration just as shoes eventually adjust to a pair of feet."
(This statement seems a bit odd to me)

So the mag 'spacer' limits the room in the mag to keep the SilverTip ammo from shuffling back and forth,,better reliability?
FMJ rds are therefore generally too long (OAL) for the mag with the spacer in place?.

Why doesn't this issue come up in the .25acp version when using HP, FMJ different bullet styles/lengths.

The Seecamp is designed around the Czech Vz45, a straight DA only .25acp pistol. No safety, slide latch, buttons, etc,,and no sights. They function perfectly with any ammo I've put through them.

What is it about the 32acp that makes the design go ammo specific.

The 32 (and the 380) are both a delayed blowback design. The 25 is not.
The former 2 have (or orig had?) a groove cut in the chamber for the fired brass to grab on to for an instant upon firing to slow the action down a bit.
Same idea that Colt used in their 38spcl Target 1911A1 target pistols.

Just some thoughts.
I never bought one for myself. They were the Must Have mouse gun back when they first came out that's for sure.
I still have a Cz45 (25acp) and that'll do for being small, reliable and very easy to shoot accurately.

Nice discussion. I appreciate the photos, , personal experience info and tech talk.
 
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