seems easy to get a ccw permit

[rcpaul]

Shall not be infringed those 4 little words at the end of the second admendment says it all. I don't understand how people can read that and jump through hoops to justify permits weapon bans ect. At the time of the founding of this great nation the founding fathers thought it acceptable for private ownership of cannons

 

[TexasArmed]

I am not against the old wild west type justice and gun ownership, It actually may solve a lot of problems we have right now, but a lot of Innocent people did die at the hands of some plain bad folks back then.

And I agree "if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns."

Regarding the Old West, it is intersting that most of the shootings were in saloons, bad men shot each other.
The robbery rate in one wild west mining town, of Bodie and Aurora was 7% of that of current day New York. In other words you are about 14 times more likely to be robbed in New York City than in the wild west. The burglary rate for the two wild west towns was 1%. Rape was almost non existent.
So places like Chicago, New York City, Los Angeles, are a lot more dangerous today thant the wild west towns were back then.

 

[Yiogo]

NH is a "Shall Issue" state. I went to the PD, filled out an application, and gave them $10. In less than 2 weeks I had my CCP. By law it must be 2 weeks or less provided you have no felony convictions, restraining orders or hospitalized for mental illness. I forget the details on the last requirement. No safety course needed but most sportmen's clubs give them. Yiogo

 

[Chuck1217]

My quick two cents- Yes, we should have background checks, only for mental illness and violent felons. Otherwise, they have no right to tell me I need a permit to carry.

 

[shield]

Just got my Concealed Weapons permit in the mail. Took about a month, but I was told to expect 2 months, so I'm happy.

 

[C.S.63]

Move to New York State. Your problem will be solved.

Back when we lived in NY (Suffolk County Long Island) It took almost a year, Then it was restricted Hunting,range and premise (home) only

 

[venomballistics]

Back when we lived in NY (Suffolk County Long Island) It took almost a year, Then it was restricted Hunting,range and premise (home) only

when I was young, I was all too often saddled with a tag along younger sister with a horrid attitude.
one of the work arounds was to hand her a burlap bag put her out in the brush someplace trying to call fictitious cute and fuzzy critters into the bag. This left my friends and I ample time to make an egress and address those finer points of being a young boy like catching tadpoles, and spitting for distance.
the basic name for it was called "Snipe hunting" but the snipe could be replaced by any other made up critter. "Whoozels and doozels twidgits and phnerts, dwizelings and shreerubbles" ... Dr Seuss wrote many a prescription for sibling troubles... till she figured out the basic theme.
Anywho, if you can carry while hunting .. the season never closes on any of the above

 

[HBW1412]

1. What state are you in?
2. Maybe you should refresh you reading of the Constitution, law abiding citizens should not even have to apply for a permit, it is a Constitutional right.

I could not agree more. It is a Constitutional right for the citizens of the United States to freely and openly be armed.

The Constitution doesn't say you have to hide your gun or get permission from the State to do so.

I'm a proud member of the NRA, but the one complaint I have about them is how they promote "Hunting Rights" and "Tradition" as reasons for We the People to be armed.

Sure, hunting is a nice benefit of our Right to Keep and Bear Arms, but I wish they would start reminding people of the real reason...
To protect ourselves from a Tyrannical Government - You see, I think the armed citizens of the United States are like one big reset button.

Take Switzerland for example. They require their citizens to be armed. Not even Hitler tried to invade Switzerland.

Sure, there are nuts everywhere and one of the high prices of freedom is the fact that every once in a while one of these nuts is going to go on a rampage and kill people.

That doesn't mean we should do psychological exams on everyone that buys a gun. The crazies would just get a gun from someone who passed the exam or use a sword or a rock.

Before someone says a lot of people can't be killed with a rock, I'd like to remind everyone that 9/11 was possible because of tiny box cutters.

 

[cshoff]

i'm in maine,
yes it is our right, i agree with that, I have one
I've had one since the early 90s
but there are alot of crazies out there,
i think the process should at least involve a leo having a 10 minute talk with the person just to see how they are
you got to at least agree with that

What are you worried about? Are you worried that some criminal might try to apply for a CCW permit through the mail?

Now keep in mind the irony of that kind of fear; a criminal doesn't need a CCW permit to carry a concealed firearm.

 

[BrokenAxle]

Here in Georgia, the process to obtain a GWL (Georgia Weapons Carry License) must be done in person, because you have to raise your right hand and swear an oath that all info you've provided about yourself is correct and accurate.

Overall, the process is pretty simple, fair, and non-overbearing (you just have to pass a background check and get fingerprinted - no photo or anything required), as I believe it should be. The right to self-defense is one of the most fundamental and important that we as humans possess, and I believe that any state that requires exhaustive hoops to be jumped through before a permit can be obtained is overstepping its bounds in terms of its citizens' rights.

 

[LenS]

i'm in maine,
yes it is our right, i agree with that, I have one
I've had one since the early 90s
but there are alot of crazies out there,
i think the process should at least involve a leo having a 10 minute talk with the person just to see how they are
you got to at least agree with that

Then you should move to MA, you'll love it here!!

Some (not all) chiefs require a "3rd degree" grilling on WHY you should be issued any permit at all (it's discretionary in MA, the Constitution is not applicable in this state), then perhaps restrict you to no concealed carry (many places do this), require an MD to attest to your mental and physical ability to handle a gun safely, take a range test with a strange gun (revolver in Boston/Brookline) and get a minimum score of 210/300 (failure of Brookline test means you have to wait at least 6 months before trying again), etc.

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Some of us believe that we should be trusted in accordance with the US Constitution until such time as we show ourselves as untrustworthy . . . as opposed to everyone being treated like a criminal (i.e. MA process) until you can prove differently.

 

[xswilly]

i'm not worried about crimanals getting ccw, i'm just cautious about a person who is not mentally responisible enough to carry a gun,
having a gun - anybody can do.
but to carry a gun everywhere takes a lot of responisblity, and maturity.
I have seen people at a party, pull thier guns and shoot into the air while yelling yehaw. nuff said

 

[RIDavid]

I wish it was that easy here in Rhode Island. Got to have a real good reason to carry a gun. I'm gonna try for it soon.

 

[GaryS]

Then you should move to MA, you'll love it here!!

LenS lives one town over from me. His chief makes applicants jump through all sorts of hoops, while mine is very reasonable. In MA it all depends on what town you live in.

 

[cshoff]

i'm not worried about crimanals getting ccw, i'm just cautious about a person who is not mentally responisible enough to carry a gun,
having a gun - anybody can do.
but to carry a gun everywhere takes a lot of responisblity, and maturity.

So do you think a person should have to prove themselves "worthy" before being able to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights?

I have seen people at a party, pull thier guns and shoot into the air while yelling yehaw. nuff said

In my state, and in most others, there are already laws against negligent and/or dangerous use of firearms. Being how it is pretty obvious that those laws are being ignored and/or not being enforced very aggressively, do you think more laws and restrictions will somehow make things different?

 

[Smitty357]

In my state they like to look at it like this.

Yes, you have a right to bare arms. But to carry a weapon concealed is a privledge, not a right. If you want your right to bare arms, u better open carry.

 

[Sebago Son]

i'm not worried about crimanals getting ccw, i'm just cautious about a person who is not mentally responisible enough to carry a gun,
having a gun - anybody can do.
but to carry a gun everywhere takes a lot of responisblity, and maturity.
I have seen people at a party, pull thier guns and shoot into the air while yelling yehaw. nuff said

So did you report this person to the police for reckless endangerment?

Did they have a CCW?

You are rapidly pegging my BS meter.

 

[FTG-05]

So did you report this person to the police for reckless endangerment?

Did they have a CCW?

You are rapidly pegging my BS meter.

Same here.

 

[hudsonvalley]

You think that career criminals would take the time to apply legally? Rules are for honest people...we take the time to fill out the form; we do not enter gun free zones; we obey the law...and ultimately we are the ones who pay the price for the lawbreakers and criminals in the form of new restrictive gun laws because they don't pay no never mind to laws anyway so it wouldn't matter to them how many were on the books...just to us good folks.

 

[hatt]

i'm not worried about crimanals getting ccw, i'm just cautious about a person who is not mentally responisible enough to carry a gun,
having a gun - anybody can do.
but to carry a gun everywhere takes a lot of responisblity, and maturity.
I have seen people at a party, pull thier guns and shoot into the air while yelling yehaw. nuff said

You have no point. Just drop it. Someone that wants to shoot up the place is going to do so. Licenses are for honest people.