Squarebutt
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The implementation of America's environmental laws helped drive many industries overseas. The heavy manufacturers of the Rust Belt suffered the most. The pollution in China is legendary.
Serious question about China
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hemiram
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The Chinese radios I've owned over the years have gotten better and better. One model radio I have was made in Japan originally, and then in China. Due to accidents, I've purchased about a half dozen of them over the last 12 years or so. The first two were made in Japan, and looked very well done, inside and out. The next one was bad looking, the case didn't fit together well, and the PC boards inside looked very amateurish. The next ones were a little bit better, and the last one looks every bit as good as the first two. All of them that died did so due to my dropping them, or in one case, a friend borrowed it and hooked up a wall wart to it and charged the non-rechargable batteries in it until one of them exploded. The one I'm holding right now is the first Chinese made one. The volume control is nearly worn out, but it works fine. I've had some china made red dot gun sights that have worked long and well.
The things I dislike the most about Chinese made products are that: 1- they are a COMMUNIST country that a lot of our fore fathers fought and died fighting against: 2- they are all for CHILD LABOR: 3- have no pollution control and could care less about what they are doing to the environment... It's sad to see that we can't/won't make things here anymore...
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JJEH
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I agree 100%!
Well in the last year 3 of my prescriptions had to be changed because they contain some cancer causing agent,2 China 1 India. I never realized all of it comes from foreign producers. I try to buy all USA products,if at all possible. This kinda made me mad,yesterday I saw some hand sanitizer for sale, yep made in china, I put it back , GREAT now they are profiting over giving us this plague.
Still its all the fault of consumers and our politicians being paid off. All politicians should have a 2 term limit. So by the time they get settled enough to be profitable for anyone its already too close to their exit to do any good. Politicians dont really need experience, they are SUPPOSED to do whatever their constituents want. Look at Trump and Obama, not alot of years there. Well we will see how the next few years go ....
Still its all the fault of consumers and our politicians being paid off. All politicians should have a 2 term limit. So by the time they get settled enough to be profitable for anyone its already too close to their exit to do any good. Politicians dont really need experience, they are SUPPOSED to do whatever their constituents want. Look at Trump and Obama, not alot of years there. Well we will see how the next few years go ....
I don’t think I have ever purchased anything from China that was ever worth what I paid for it and it didn’t last anyway.
I’m a big Buy American person and do so in every way I can. I have always said that we should not be doing business with a Communist country, I don’t even like things that are coming in from Vietnam!
One other thing is I don’t like them owning land and American companies in this country either but of course the needs of the greedy see otherwise.
As far as I’m concerned they are totally done with me after this Covid flu business. Are they/ were they setting us up? For what? I don’t know but there’s more to the story then we’ll ever know.
But I will do everything I can not to patronize China and that goes for any American Co. that’s crawled up their tailpipe.
I’m a big Buy American person and do so in every way I can. I have always said that we should not be doing business with a Communist country, I don’t even like things that are coming in from Vietnam!
One other thing is I don’t like them owning land and American companies in this country either but of course the needs of the greedy see otherwise.
As far as I’m concerned they are totally done with me after this Covid flu business. Are they/ were they setting us up? For what? I don’t know but there’s more to the story then we’ll ever know.
But I will do everything I can not to patronize China and that goes for any American Co. that’s crawled up their tailpipe.
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LVSteve
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Two points to consider.
1) Back then, there were still far more US made cars sold than Japanese.
2) As a former GM owner it is hard to let go of a vehicle which has so much money in maintenance and spare parts invested in it. You can throw away a 15-year old Camry with a clear conscience.
General Tao's Chicken ain't bad.
It was created in S California in the '60s.
LVSteve
Member
As it was in the US back in the day. The mistake was to allow US industry to ship its operations overseas and not tariff products from nations who pollute with no regard to the present or future.
On the back of my Business Card:
"The bitterness of poor quality
remains long after the
sweetness of low price
is forgotten"
Benjamin Franklin
I make an effort to buy American or OEM products or parts.
"The bitterness of poor quality
remains long after the
sweetness of low price
is forgotten"
Benjamin Franklin
I make an effort to buy American or OEM products or parts.
Robspeire, your axiom reminded me of a longer-winded sentiment from John Ruskin:
Rastoff
US Veteran
In the US, the big companies are willing to turn a blind eye in order to make bigger profits. Some places in China are reasonable places to work, but many are straight up sweat shops that pay literally pennies a day to their employees. Companies like Nike use those sweat shops to make their stuff then, hire professional athletes to promote their products while those same athletes protest oppression. It's sickening.
I agree. And as we buy more American made stuff, the quality will get better.
Here's the thing about buying American - while the company says it's American - the products it sells might be made somewhere else.
I'll give an example, I was in the autoglass business for many years. I worked for an OEM glass company and an aftermarket glass company. Both were long time American companies - WERE - LOF and PPG. That is until they were bought out and investment firms got a hold of them. They were selling largely American made products.
Anyway, once the glass comes out of the warehouse and/or the stickers are taken off, there's no way of knowing where it was made. The only way of knowing is to look at the bug on the windshield. The bug is the manufacturer's info that is printed/eteched on the glass - at a glance it looks like a splattered bug - hence the name. The true location of manufacture is in the form of a DOT number - example "DOT###". There's a decoder on one of the glass forums.
The point being, even if you insist on an American made replacement glass it was likely made in China or in Mexico. Carlite is OEM for Ford. Carlite has factories in Mexico. Then there's a Chinese company that that's OEM for Ford, GM and VW group. It even has factories in the US w/US workers! Again, the only way of knowing where it was made is to decode the DOT number.
I'll give an example, I was in the autoglass business for many years. I worked for an OEM glass company and an aftermarket glass company. Both were long time American companies - WERE - LOF and PPG. That is until they were bought out and investment firms got a hold of them. They were selling largely American made products.
Anyway, once the glass comes out of the warehouse and/or the stickers are taken off, there's no way of knowing where it was made. The only way of knowing is to look at the bug on the windshield. The bug is the manufacturer's info that is printed/eteched on the glass - at a glance it looks like a splattered bug - hence the name. The true location of manufacture is in the form of a DOT number - example "DOT###". There's a decoder on one of the glass forums.
The point being, even if you insist on an American made replacement glass it was likely made in China or in Mexico. Carlite is OEM for Ford. Carlite has factories in Mexico. Then there's a Chinese company that that's OEM for Ford, GM and VW group. It even has factories in the US w/US workers! Again, the only way of knowing where it was made is to decode the DOT number.
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absolutely not. Just Google China Melanine scandal, when hundreds of thousands of infants were made severely ill, with some dying, from baby formula being sold with Melanine in it because it was cheaper to add than the approved filler.
During the 80's spent a year as a project manager building a new hospital building for Chinese Hospital in San Francisco. The working hospital we were replacing was easily the filthiest health care center I'd ever worked a project in.
Walked through the mens locker room one day to get to a mechanical space as the housekeepers were changing shifts. Just about every Asian in there was either sticking a gun into his belt as he was getting ready to leave work, or was taking one out of his belt to stick in his locker while changing for work. Got major hard looks my way walking through.
Told the Chief Engineer of the hospital what I saw, 'well, that's what you get when pretty much every male housekeeper in this hospital is in the Tong. And btw, best not to piss any of them off."
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