Shield recall

millisec said:
I talked to the S&W rep at the demo days event today. Both the event and the rep were pretty useless. The shields were however back on sale after inspection. I thought I would at least be able to maybe get some mags and maybe some M&P paraphernalia but nada. They had zero shield mags and the other compact and fullsize mags were for the buy a gun get an extra mag deal. Whole event consisted of a pile of M&P's on a couple tables and one guy in the range letting people pop a couple rounds with store rental guns. Place was a little off beat with the Biohazard cleanup truck "the blood cleanup specialists" parked out front from the apparent shooting last night. I had driven past last night and the whole store/range complex was crime taped off and cops still there. Aside from any accidental shootings I don't know about they have had at least two suicide/homicides on the range in past couple years.
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Thanks for the tip you saved me about 2 hours of my day tomorrow, I was going to stop in at the event by me.

I googled the possible shooting there but couldn't find anything recent, it's crazy how many are on the net that they have had there in the past though.

Did you find out if last nights happened inside or outside?
 
If I dropped a gun, and it discharged and killed someone, I would feel completely responsible. I would also try to weasel out of my responsibilty, and shift the blame somewhere else. Like it or not, That's the American way.
 
millisec said:
I talked to the S&W rep at the demo days event today. Both the event and the rep were pretty useless. The shields were however back on sale after inspection. I thought I would at least be able to maybe get some mags and maybe some M&P paraphernalia but nada. They had zero shield mags and the other compact and fullsize mags were for the buy a gun get an extra mag deal. Whole event consisted of a pile of M&P's on a couple tables and one guy in the range letting people pop a couple rounds with store rental guns. Place was a little off beat with the Biohazard cleanup truck "the blood cleanup specialists" parked out front from the apparent shooting last night. I had driven past last night and the whole store/range complex was crime taped off and cops still there. Aside from any accidental shootings I don't know about they have had at least two suicide/homicides on the range in past couple years.
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Assuming this was Shoot Straight in WPB? I was there today as well... Didn't see or hear about any of this before now, you're saying there was a shooting there last night???
 
Actually he was at the one in Apopka. They had the event as well.
 
I am willing to speculate that there are going to be a lot of negligent discharges as a direct result of owners obsessing over this problem. Some poorly trained people will check out the trigger the first time or two with the gun empty but then check it again later on (obsessing) while forgetting the gun is loaded.

I wish my Shield had this problem and not all the other far serious problems that required me to return it to S&W.
 
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Stratajema said:
I am willing to speculate that there are going to be a lot of negligent discharges as a direct result of owners obsessing over this problem. Some poorly trained people will check out the trigger the first time or two with the gun empty but then check it again later on (obsessing) while forgetting the gun is loaded.

I wish my Shield had this problem and not all the other far serious problems that required me to return it to S&W.
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If the slide is locked open (as the video shows). Then they shouldnt have a loaded round in the chamber. And even if they decide to drop a loaded round in the chamber (with the slide open). It still isnt going to fire until the slide is released......Then again, ive seen some stupid people in my life time. ;)
 
They were pretty tight lipped about what happened. They have gotten enough bad publicity in the past and even stopped renting guns for quite a while after the mom rented a gun and popped herself and teenage son a while back. Another guy apparently used the range to commit suicide not so long ago. They might not be talking and I could not find a blotter online but the crime scene last night and the cleanup crew today were a pretty good give away. Guess it par for the course on a public range. I've personally seen a 9mm through the foot and a 45 shatter a lower leg at an outdoor range. Those events didn't make news either.
 
mine was test fired in june 2013. tested mine per S&W instructions and mine is fine. Mine has a HPExxxx serial number
 
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DocSunShine said:
I doubt it matters as both probably used the same parts that could fail.
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True but still haven't seen any 40's with failure. And since they are making it fairly clear it seems to be with recent guns, its fairly safe to say they are from a smaller batch from the line, then taking into account one line would handle 40's another 9's and only 9'sare having issues so far. I say it may be only 9's
 
DO WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW?

maybe it's late & I'm cranky, but I for one don't need to know if every single shield owners gun tested OK or not, (we could be at this a long time). I hope they did, but it makes for a lot of reading.
 
If the testing is correct, and this is not something that could show up after more rounds going through it, Then My My 9 is good. 4/19/2013 test fire date. Guess it is something to periodically check from time to time
 
The guy that called me said it was a recall. I wish the Springfield XDs came in a .40, then I could just off load this should.

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MrNrdy said:
If the testing is correct, and this is not something that could show up after more rounds going through it, Then My My 9 is good. 4/19/2013 test fire date. Guess it is something to periodically check from time to time
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I highly doubt its something that could show up at a later date. Since this is a "safety" issue and if it were likely to happen later on. S&W would have done a complete recall on all Shields. Just to cover the possibilities of an accident later on. In this case, if its not a problem now. Then i dont think they see it being a problem later.
 
dullh said:
Go to the S&W website, look at the recall notice and inspect your pistol the way they show you how to in the notice. Mine doesn't need to go back. Yours might. Problem solved.
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On mine, that little trigger piece does not swing at all. Its in a static position flush with the trigger. Has been since it came out of the box.

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fallhunter said:
The guy that called me said it was a recall. I wish the Springfield XDs came in a .40, then I could just off load this should.

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The guy u spoke to can't read (he must own a Springfield, cough cough). It would be hard for me to take advice from him. :)

It clearly says SAFETY ALERT.
 
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motomed said:
see here's the thing, there's lots of people like you who would rather believe what you just know to be true than to listen to reason and data and come to an educated conclusion.
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I was once like you and thought the trigger safety was there for show. Then I listened to reason and can understand the value of it.

You say, or at least imply, that it will take at least 22g's of force for the gun to fire. I agree that it will take that much. Then you state that it is impossible to generate that much force without destroying the pistol. That's not correct.

Without doing any actual math, because you seem opposed to it, anyone can see that an object striking a solid object after a free fall will generate more than 1g. The formula, F=ma, should tell you that right off. Because, the mass of the object is measured while at rest. Therefore, any motion at all, which is the acceleration part, is a multiplier. So, it's not difficult to see that a falling object can generate more than 100g's when dropped.

This is that "reason and data" part you're accusing us of not using. I think you should do the math. You'll see what I'm saying is reasonable.
 
My only question is if you owned a Shield that was flawed by this safety issue and you didn't subscribe to this forum, would S&W notify you, "or"....?
 
Steve89052 said:
My only question is if you owned a Shield that was flawed by this safety issue and you didn't subscribe to this forum, would S&W notify you, "or"....?
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This is actually a good question. If you registered your Shield with S&W they have you mailing and email address. I would be a little disappointed if I don't get at least an email from them stating the issue and how to resolve it.

I understand that the number of Shield's that went out before that may have this issue is vast. However, S&W themselves stated that this could cause an accidental discharge.

If a S&W defect can cause a death I want to know about it. I shouldn't have to subscribe to a forum to be informed about this. Of course this is just MHO.
 
If it was glock it would have been call a trigger upgrade and not a safety alert.
 
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