Shutdown the NFL

BJ's, same as Costco.:)

Jets/Bears tonight 8:30 PM.

Only BJ's is smaller. It's a regional company, where Costco is national. BJ's is about 75% grocery store these days. You know, for when you need a 55 gallon drum of milk. ;)

If anyone ever goes to HI, the cheapest gas on Oahu is at Costco. Just be prepared to wait. And have a membership card.
 
The size of the two is much different I agree.

I have probably been a BJ's member for 20 + years or close to it, if not more. They seem to have everything I use daily.

I am a regional type guy.;)
 
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One serious way to limit the NFL thugs( and other sports players) owners is to treat the players like regular citizens.

When they do crimes like assault, drunk driving, drug possession & illegal possession and carrying of weapons hit them with maximum penalties' instead of being very easy on them because of their status.:mad:


It would send a message, and having a bunch of their players in prison at any given time would put different people available to fill out the teams. Would tend to spread the wealth around more.
 
NYlakesider

I agree 100% with your post, but to single out a percentage of NFL players and say the entire organization is the same?:rolleyes:

Shut Down the NFL?

Many people sit at home and have a few beers, cocktails etc. and bother no one.

Others drive intoxicated and kill innocent people, are these two the same?

The same applies to gun ownership, the Anti's don't think so.:(

PS, Indeed this is a very interesting thread.
 
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NYlakesider

I agree 100% with your post, but to single out a percentage of NFL players and say the entire organization is the same?:rolleyes:

Shut Down the NFL?

Many people sit at home a have a few beers, cocktails etc. and bother no one.

Others drive intoxicated and kill innocent people, are these two the same?

The same applies to gun ownership, the Anti's don't think so.:(

PS, Indeed this is a very interesting thread.

What I said would impact the league no doubt, but shut it down no and that was not my intention.

AND yes this is a very interesting thread. :D It's tending to spread out a bit almost like a shot gun pointed straight up and fired and seeing where the shot falls.
 
What I said would impact the league no doubt, but shut it down no and that was not my intention.

AND yes this is a very interesting thread. :D It's tending to spread out a bit almost like a shot gun pointed straight up and fired and seeing where the shot falls.

Shutting down the NFL, wasn't directed to your post:eek:, sorry I may have confused you:( and I know that is not what you meant.;)
 
No matter what comes out of this it's all about the money and let's make a deal so I can keep my job. Special things for special people.
Unless someone can enlighten me,the last time I looked at a "Sports Figure" as a role model I was in grade school and that was 50 years ago!;) But then I have to be reminded of the Black Sox scandal?
 
Mostly I look at sports figures as negative precepts. That is, they show us how NOT to live our lives.

Then again, they are a lot like many lottery winners. They come into a lot of money and are not prepared to spend it, invest it, or save it properly. They often run out of money (and friends) quickly.

No matter what comes out of this it's all about the money and let's make a deal so I can keep my job. Special things for special people.
Unless someone can enlighten me,the last time I looked at a "Sports Figure" as a role model I was in grade school and that was 50 years ago!;) But then I have to be reminded of the Black Sox scandal?
 
They aren't all bad. The retired (2012) Ravens center Matt Birk, graduate of Harvard, champion of childrens reading programs in Baltimore schools was one of the most decent athletes in the NFL. He shopped where I worked and always had time for conversation with me.
 
I'm getting ready to watch the Jets/Bears game which is coming up at 8:30 PM.

Most of us New England fans will of course be rooting for the Bears.;)

Now back to all the bad guys that reside in the NFL.:eek:

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To show I don't live on a one way street, allow me to introduce the New York Giants.:eek:;):cool:

Now look at what those NY Giant Players are involved with.:)
Just a few I must say.

Make-A-Wish Foundation:
NY Presbyterian Organ Donation
Wheelchair Sports Federation
Wounded Warrior Project
Breast Cancer Awareness Month
Read Across America
Touchdown for Tots
United Way
Hackensack University Medical Center Touchdown Fund
Food Bank for NYC:
Eva's Kitchen
Community FoodBank of NJ

Looks to me like there are some great Christians playing Pro Ball in the NFL.:cool:
 
I'm getting ready to watch the Jets/Bears game which is coming up at 8:30 PM.

Most of us New England fans will of course be rooting for the Bears.;)

Now back to all the bad guys that reside in the NFL.:eek:

710x380-2014-celebrate-volunteerism_zps453054f3.jpg


To show I don't live on a one way street, allow me to introduce the New York Giants.:eek:;):cool:



Now look at what those NY Giant Players are involved with.:)
Just a few I must say.

Make-A-Wish Foundation:
NY Presbyterian Organ Donation
Wheelchair Sports Federation
Wounded Warrior Project
Breast Cancer Awareness Month
Read Across America
Touchdown for Tots
United Way
Hackensack University Medical Center Touchdown Fund
Food Bank for NYC:
Eva's Kitchen
Community FoodBank of NJ

Looks to me like there are some great Christians playing Pro Ball in the NFL.:cool:

Labworm; you are absolutely right BUT who gets front page of the news - Ray Rice and other evil-doers (GWB).:D Decent athletes get no press at all unless the media wants to do a feel good story - every so often just to say they are fair to everyone.:eek:. That said, there are enough thugs and gangsters in the NFL to keep this behavior going for a long, long time.
 
Labworm; you are absolutely right BUT who gets front page of the news - Ray Rice and other evil-doers (GWB).:D Decent athletes get no press at all unless the media wants to do a feel good story - every so often just to say they are fair to everyone.:eek:. That said, there are enough thugs and gangsters in the NFL to keep this behavior going for a long, long time.

I agree, made that known in my first post in this thread, my point is, don't paint the entire group as being the same.

Otherwise we sound no different than those that would like to take away everyone's right to own a firearm because of a few nitwits.

With that I shall leave this thread.:)
 
One serious way to limit the NFL thugs( and other sports players) owners is to treat the players like regular citizens.

When they do crimes like assault, drunk driving, drug possession & illegal possession and carrying of weapons hit them with maximum penalties' instead of being very easy on them because of their status.:mad:


It would send a message, and having a bunch of their players in prison at any given time would put different people available to fill out the teams. Would tend to spread the wealth around more.[/QUOTE


I'm good with that as long as they send all those white collar corporate thugs to jail also.I'd say those bankers, investment firms,and mortgage brokers amongst others, who trashed our economy,have done more harm to this country than any sports figures.
 
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What's good for the goose is good for the gander and there is no one special among the whole crowd. ;)
 
If like to see the same rules that they have at my job.
I work for a large company. They have a strict code of conduct.
At my job, if you get into any type of physical altercation, get arrested for certain offenses (on or off the clock), you get fired, period.

If you get fired for certain things, you can't ever get re-hired anywhere in the company.

I think that would solve a lot of problems in all professional sports.

While I think that this is an issue that should be resolved on a contract-to-contract basis, I have to say I personally feel that what you do on your own time off the clock should be separate from your job provided that it does not interfere with performing your duties. For criminal activity it's easy to agree that violent criminal activity should get you fired, but what is considered inappropriate varies significantly. For example, while I abhor racism, should saying something racist on your own time be grounds for you to have to sell your NBA team, or be fired from food network? I have to say no, typically those behaviors have their own consequences.

There are some truly bad people who happen to be athletes, but they are the minority and if they do criminal activity the real issue is that their pseudo-celebrity status grants them a level of protection. It's a systems problem that is the result of many aspects of society, shutting down any one institution won't solve it rather truly terrible things need to be punished to the full extent of the law, penalties should be increased for things that are not punished extremely enough (animal cruelty for example) and people should separate the acts of the employees of an organization from the organization itself.
 
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