So I decieded to make a brass deflector
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An injection molded part would be the ideal cost solution. It will be on of the thing I am going to be looking at while shopping around.
That would be great. I am bought to order several types of chamber flags from Brownells to get a wider scope of testing with them. PM inbound.
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FWIW, my chamber flags are all pieces of 3/8" wooden dowel painted fluorescent orange.
To make this a viable, profitable enterprize you have to keep it very reasonably priced, easily manufactured, and simple. As soon as you add slots, holes, springs, screws etc etc...costs increase etc....and it gets over priced in conjunction with manufacture and competor price. What you need here is a simple snap on snap off side rail deflector devise devise, most likly plastic composite, although some thin spring steel materials can actually be press fabricated much cheaper than injection molded plastic.....Cost needs to be in the $2.00 area or less and sell for no more than $8.00...Keep in mind you are selling a product that is not really needed by hardly anyone, and is a very limited market.....you need to entice sales because it will work, and it is very REASONABLY PRICED.....best regards Plum
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I am in agreement with Plumbago. I have zero experience in machining and manufacturing, but I make the following observation vis a vis 15-22 accessories.
There seems to be a mentality that $50 is the target price, because that is what 15-22 owners will pay for add-ons, irrespective of the complexity of the device. If one reads through the various threads one will find that price (actual or projected) for the ambi safety, the speed loader, the brass deflector and probably others, all use $50 as the target.
The safety selector on my rifle broke, so I went for Roger's product and am satisfied with it. In it's present form, I would not spend $50 for the speed loader and absolutely would not spend that much for a brass deflector. The "it will cost $50, no matter what it is" mentality needs to go away.
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Cost will be the final deciding factor in whether this project continues to move forward. Right now have the part injection molded is not an option due to initial costs. I am waiting on a few quotes to come in from shops that make parts for picatinny rail already. So that should eliminate the cost of having a custom tool made to cut the mounting slot for the picatinny rail.
Today I went to the range to do some more testing, this time with the S&W mags. In the middle of the first mag I had a spent shell stick between the bolt and the inside of the deflector. Other than that, the next 10 mags had zero issues. I was going to get some video of it in action but left the battery for my camera in the wall charger
at home.
Today I went to the range to do some more testing, this time with the S&W mags. In the middle of the first mag I had a spent shell stick between the bolt and the inside of the deflector. Other than that, the next 10 mags had zero issues. I was going to get some video of it in action but left the battery for my camera in the wall charger
at home.
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Just had a thought ...
Instead of something that fastens to the rail, how about something one-piece that is attached to the space between the side and top rails. True, it would mean two small screws and not be instant on, instant off, but that would eliminate a rail clamp of some kind.
I may play around with that idea myself over the weekend.
Instead of something that fastens to the rail, how about something one-piece that is attached to the space between the side and top rails. True, it would mean two small screws and not be instant on, instant off, but that would eliminate a rail clamp of some kind.
I may play around with that idea myself over the weekend.
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How would it attach?
Like something that spread apart and grabbed onto the outside edges of the rail?
Just curious.
It would be cool to have a rubber grommet that pushed into the first hole on the handguard. That would be cheap and fast.
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two small screws into the rail.
Another possibility, but more complicated.
Yet another mounting possibility, but again, more complicated.
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This, without the slots. It just screws to the space between the top and side rails. Or even screws into the side rail itself. No need for any fancy rail attachment.
any update jon?
i have a nice burn on my cheek from yesterday. i space my glasses a bit to prevent fogging and i guess a spent casing somehow got in there. i didnt pay attention til the burning started doh. id definitely be up for testing any prototype if you need that as well.
i have a nice burn on my cheek from yesterday. i space my glasses a bit to prevent fogging and i guess a spent casing somehow got in there. i didnt pay attention til the burning started doh. id definitely be up for testing any prototype if you need that as well.
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w0ady, ouch!
These will be going into production in the next week or two. It looks like I will be able to keep the price low. I still have to work out a few details before I have a final price.
This is what I have come up with for the final design.
This is the direct bolt on configuration.
This is the quick release configuration.
These will be going into production in the next week or two. It looks like I will be able to keep the price low. I still have to work out a few details before I have a final price.
This is what I have come up with for the final design.
This is the direct bolt on configuration.
This is the quick release configuration.
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This is what I have come up with for the final design.
This is the direct bolt on configuration.
Bolt onto what?
