Grog
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I don't care who you are, that's funny right there
That one on the top right has a rite' funny looking trigger. You sure you're a 1911 fan?
So what's the big deal about 1911's?++ S&W Pic Added!
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I don't care who you are, that's funny right there
That one on the top right has a rite' funny looking trigger. You sure you're a 1911 fan?
keith44spl
Member
That one on the top right has a rite' funny looking trigger. You sure you're a 1911 fan?
Yeah,
That one slipped in from somewhere's...
Packin' in another load today,
Su Amigo,
Dave
Bullseye 2620
Member
Packin' in another load today,
Su Amigo,
Dave
Lucky you! Me, I'm glued to a desk.
Bullseye
smith revolver cop
Member
+1. However, I much prefer the LDA of Para Ordnance... Canada's contribution to this sainted firearm! So, I get the ergonomic advantages of the 1911, with a light, consistent double-action trigger, and the best part: lots, and lots, and lots of inexpensive, readily-available magazines!!!
Bullseye 2620
Member
There have been a couple of "solutions" to the "carrying-cocked-and-locked problem." The LDA was one. The other was the safe-fire system developed by Bill Laughridge of Cylinder and Slide (see: Safety Fast Shooting Kit). With this device, the gun is carried hammer down, round in the chamber, and the thumb safety engaged. But, when you flick the thumb safety down, the hammer rebounds and cocks and the gun is ready to fire (condition zero), so you've got the same sweet short single-action pull without having the carry the gun with the hammer cocked, which apparently scares the daylights out of non-dedicated personnel.
I can understand why some LE administrators and the military freak at the idea of cocked and locked carry. After all, John Browning had to add the grip safety because of concerns that too many soldiers would suffer ADs without one, even with the thumb safety.
But, for a civilian or an LEO well-schooled in the manual of arms associated with this pistol, and a gunsmith checked and worked piece (you really want to make sure that it requires positive pressure to disengage the thumb safety), I don't see the problem (excepting of course the PR problem in LE applications). Cocked and locked is how the gun was designed to be carried, and I feel utterly safe doing so, especially with a good rigid OWB holster that covers the trigger guard.
I have shot the LDA and it really is an amazing device. Who would thunk it that the engineers could have designed such a short, light DA pull? My problem with all double-stack Paras is that I have very small hands, and I can't get on the trigger properly with a double-stack .45 -- the grip is just too chunky for me. For others though--like LEOs who want a .45 on the 1911 platform but who would never get permission to carry cocked and locked--the LDA may be just the ticket.
Anyone here actually own a Cylinder & Slide converted 1911 with the SFS modification? I understand that they also make a kit for installing the same system on the P35.
Bullseye
I can understand why some LE administrators and the military freak at the idea of cocked and locked carry. After all, John Browning had to add the grip safety because of concerns that too many soldiers would suffer ADs without one, even with the thumb safety.
But, for a civilian or an LEO well-schooled in the manual of arms associated with this pistol, and a gunsmith checked and worked piece (you really want to make sure that it requires positive pressure to disengage the thumb safety), I don't see the problem (excepting of course the PR problem in LE applications). Cocked and locked is how the gun was designed to be carried, and I feel utterly safe doing so, especially with a good rigid OWB holster that covers the trigger guard.
I have shot the LDA and it really is an amazing device. Who would thunk it that the engineers could have designed such a short, light DA pull? My problem with all double-stack Paras is that I have very small hands, and I can't get on the trigger properly with a double-stack .45 -- the grip is just too chunky for me. For others though--like LEOs who want a .45 on the 1911 platform but who would never get permission to carry cocked and locked--the LDA may be just the ticket.
Anyone here actually own a Cylinder & Slide converted 1911 with the SFS modification? I understand that they also make a kit for installing the same system on the P35.
Bullseye
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Allen-frame
Member
I just have to say
Allen Frame
Allen Frame
smith revolver cop
Member
"My problem with all double-stack Paras is that I have very small hands, and I can't get on the trigger properly with a double-stack .45 -- the grip is just too chunky for me. For others though--like LEOs who want a .45 on the 1911 platform but who would never get permission to carry cocked and locked--the LDA may be just the ticket."
I agree. I have relatively small hands, and the single-stack is-- as is well known-- quite ergonomic. That's why I carry the single-stack 7.45 on duty and single-stack 6.45 off duty. Can't beat the price, selection, and availability of 1911 Government model mags (and even Officer model mags).
I agree. I have relatively small hands, and the single-stack is-- as is well known-- quite ergonomic. That's why I carry the single-stack 7.45 on duty and single-stack 6.45 off duty. Can't beat the price, selection, and availability of 1911 Government model mags (and even Officer model mags).
reddogge
Member
OP
Well I went and done it!
Picked up this little gem. Shot 50 rounds of my ammo out of it yesterday. Gotta say, it's pretty darn accurate. Didn't miss a beat, I'll have to have a shoot off between it and the Dan Wesson Pointman 7. Really like the looks of this one though.
Picked up this little gem. Shot 50 rounds of my ammo out of it yesterday. Gotta say, it's pretty darn accurate. Didn't miss a beat, I'll have to have a shoot off between it and the Dan Wesson Pointman 7. Really like the looks of this one though.
Picked both of these 1911 copies up 2 weeks ago
GSG 11-22
S&W 1911PD
GSG 11-22
S&W 1911PD
Out West
Member
Not likely. Not my God. However, nothing feels better in a man's hand than a 1911.
Out
West
OP
Picked both of these 1911 copies up 2 weeks ago
GSG 11-22
S&W 1911PD
Nice!, Have you shot the GSG?
The SW is the alloy frame? They had a demo/rental at the range and it sure felt nice. Big weight difference.
Joni_Lynn
US Veteran
I like them, they're one of my favorite addictions.
I might have more than one of them, have to check to know for sure.
I might have more than one of them, have to check to know for sure.
Haven't shot either yet, been pre-occupied with car stuff. The Smith indeed is alloy framed, very light, points nice and feels good in my hand.
Plan to shoot both after my Southern road trip.
OP
I like them, they're one of my favorite addictions.
I might have more than one of them, have to check to know for sure.
You are indeed very ill. Therapy not working?
Bullseye 2620
Member
A couple of bullseye .45s. . .
.45 wad gun, built by Mike Curtis and rebuilt by David Sams, with full-length Bomar rib. . .a sweet, soft shooter
.45 hardball gun, built by Jim Clark
Notice the triggers on both. . .I've got a really short trigger finger. Nice to know a gunsmith who can easily do this modification.
Bullseye
.45 wad gun, built by Mike Curtis and rebuilt by David Sams, with full-length Bomar rib. . .a sweet, soft shooter
.45 hardball gun, built by Jim Clark
Notice the triggers on both. . .I've got a really short trigger finger. Nice to know a gunsmith who can easily do this modification.
Bullseye
Joni_Lynn
US Veteran
Therapy? What therapy?
That's just the tip of the iceburg.
That's just the tip of the iceburg.
m657
Member
1911 ~what Gawd had in mind when She created shot & shell.....
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