So why will people

Same reason...

Same reason I have a Kel Tec. I needed a gun, the Kel Tec suited and I had enough money to buy it. Believe me, I would like to have another 3rd gen, but couldn't swing it.

Now when I thought I was going to have to settle for a Taurus instead of my 686 and I had a little extra cash, I sucked it up and bought the 686 and never been happier. If you don't have money though, and few prospects of getting more, it's better not to spend more than you have.
 
The problem is...

3dots said:
Agreed. I had Taurus .38 revolver back in '82 but I traded it for a SS prop for my boat. I don't know the model but It was extremely well made and shot like a dream. I wish I had it back.
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Taurus has been uneven in their quality and I don't know when those low and high periods are. I understand that when they were using S&W designs early on, they were trying to emulate S&W in the quality department. A friend of mine swears by his Taurus.
 
rwsmith said:
Taurus has been uneven in their quality and I don't know when those low and high periods are. I understand that when they were using S&W designs early on, they were trying to emulate S&W in the quality department. A friend of mine swears by his Taurus.
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I heard something to the affect that some of their pistols were "made on Smith machinery". I don't know what that would mean but it was something like that. Maybe SW offloaded some gear to the Brazilians.
 
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Eh... sometimes ya see sumthin' and just buy it.

I guess it must have been at least ten years ago, I saw a little Taurus CIA 850. Absolutely gorgeous high polish blue. I'd buy it again.
 
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I've never been brand snobbish. I've shot and owned many brands, including a couple of Taurus models. The best gun is the one you have with you. And I've only ever had one failure with a gun, and it was a used Smith and Wesson I bought from Buds gun shop.

Matt
 
finesse_r said:
Worse yet, they can often get a quality lightly used S&W for the same price or less than a cheaply made new Taurus.

Some folks just like the shinny newness of things rather than the quality and reliability of things.
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Some folks buy new, because they aren't knowledgeable enough to tell the difference between a good used gun, and a not-so-good used gun. They don't want to buy someone else's problem.
 
3dots said:
I heard something to the affect that some of their pistols were "made on Smith machinery". I don't know what that would mean but it was something like that. Maybe SW offloaded some gear to the Brazilians.
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From '71 to'77, S&W owned the controlling interest in Taurus.
A lot of tooling and intellectual property was shared. It was good for both companies. The taurus employees made S&W a good offer and bought back the shares.
Beretta had the pistol contract for the Brazilian army. They licenced it, along with the tooling, to Taurus. When the contract was over, Taurus kept the tooling and was allowed to continue making the PT92.
 
MattO said:
I've never been brand snobbish. I've shot and owned many brands, including a couple of Taurus models. The best gun is the one you have with you. And I've only ever had one failure with a gun, and it was a used Smith and Wesson I bought from Buds gun shop.

Matt
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Well, lets hear about it. :)
 
I will admin that I have never had the opportunity to shoot a Taurus revolver... never!

I own and shoot Smiths and Wessons.

BUT! I have examined Tauris and don't think they are bad... just not as good. I think the price reflects the difference.

Now.. If you spent your time with RG, or Clerke, you will love Tauris!
 
Rustyt1953 said:
From '71 to'77, S&W owned the controlling interest in Taurus.
A lot of tooling and intellectual property was shared. It was good for both companies. The taurus employees made S&W a good offer and bought back the shares.
Beretta had the pistol contract for the Brazilian army. They licenced it, along with the tooling, to Taurus. When the contract was over, Taurus kept the tooling and was allowed to continue making the PT92.
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Wasn't that when Bangor Punta OWNED BOTH? Smith never outright owned a portion of Taurus.
 
I should add the qualifier that I have a Rossi 92 model rifle in 357 Magnum that I love dearly.

I've been intrigued by some of the Tracker series Tauruses(Tauri?) but never enough to actually buy one.

I was having an interesting discussion with one of the guys in the gun library at Cabelas the other day. He commented on the DA trigger pull of a gun being "not as bad as a Rossi" and I asked him what kind of a guy he thought I was by making that comparison :)

He then proceeded to tell me that he had a 30 year old Interarms that he'd bought cheap and shot the snot out of with no signs of it slowing down. I don't doubt it, but from what I've seen quality can be sort of hit or miss.

My biggest complaint about Taurus/Rossi guns is when I'm walking around a gun show. I'll see what I think is a good S&W until I bend over to take a closer look at it :)
 
Some people just might like them.
I was given a Taurus revolver and its actually a nice little gun. Light years better than their SA's.

Why do people buy and drive lets say a Chrysler product when there are others makes that are better?
Less expensive perhaps but there is also the determining factor that they like them (not me) and have good luck with them.
Lets not begrudge them for that.
 
I was shooting sporting clays one day with a M21 Winchester and a guy with an automatic told me he had a gun just like mine and his was a Stevens 311. I asked if he hunted with his and he said he usually used his auto. I didn't try to explain the difference in our SXSs but I am sure his will kill a squirrel or rabbit or break a target just as good as my gun. Larry
 
tops said:
I was shooting sporting clays one day with a M21 Winchester and a guy with an automatic told me he had a gun just like mine and his was a Stevens 311. I asked if he hunted with his and he said he usually used his auto. I didn't try to explain the difference in our SXSs but I am sure his will kill a squirrel or rabbit or break a target just as good as my gun. Larry
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M-21? Sporting clays. Don't cha know your're supposed to use a Taurus Judge? :rolleyes:

Know what you mean, I used to shoot Sporting clays with my A grade Parker. Got many what is it questions, got many snobbish looks and comments like you do know that you really shouldn't be using that. Same kind of stuff when I took my Westley Richards. They were made to use. Neither was NIB.

One quick retort for snobs who had an accepted fancy gun was, if a Benelli Auto for example I'd say it works as well as your Winchester 1400. Then their score would drop off. :D
 
ralph7 said:
Well, lets hear about it. :)
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I posted a thread about it in the M&P pistols forum.

Long story short, bought a used Police trade in M&P .40c and it failed to feed, failed to go to battery, failed to eject, you name it, it did it. They took the gun back and refunded my money. I bought a new one locally. My taurus 709 slim 9mm has not once failed on me, nor any of the other brands. Also I have a few other Smith's and they have never failed on me.

Matt
 
Years ago, after considering many factors about work, dress, etc., etc., I decided to switch to a pocket-carried J-frame. Until I could acquire the money for the real thing, I carried a Rossi clone of the Model 60 for a year or so. Perfectly decent, dependable little gun. Not a Smith as to fit and finish, but a good trigger and it shot just fine. When I could I went to a 640; but I wouldn't feel bad, if I still had it, to carry the Rossi today.
 
I was once handed a 357 Taurus and 4 boxes of ammo to play with, with no obligations at all.
I fired 6 with it and gave it back.
I won't knock the gun.
All 6 rounds went where intended.
it didn't do anything goofy or give any indication of any impending failure.
Trigger feel was sub par against a Smith, but not unreasonable nor unmanageable.
It'd have been up to the job any 357 might be tasked with.
It just didn't sing for me, and left me kinda bored after a cylinder full.
 
snubbyfan said:
What gets me is when people spend good money on a handgun, carry it in a junk holster on a Walmart belt then complain about it.
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And buy the cheapest, crappyist looking ammo on the market and them blame the gun for misfires and other problems!!!!!!
 
At one time, I was considering a Taurus .38 snub as a duty BUG. I realized that, in an ankle holster, It would get the snot beat out of it. So a reliable Taurus is what I was looking for. I told my Pop about my dilemma, and he found a beautiful S&W model 36 nickeled 2" for $400. Unfortunately it had a broken hammer spur :( I had that replaced for $125 at my local gunsmith. So now I have a $525 J frame that's way too nice to carry.

That's why my wife calls it my "Back-up-in-the-safe" gun:rolleyes:
 
I bought my first Taurus about a year and a half ago. Its a model 85. 2 inch 38 stainless. It has been my every day carry since I got my ccw.

It is an excellent gun with no problems whatsoever. Shoots extremely accurately and the trigger is very nice.

I bought it because at that point in time it was difficult to find any decent handguns for sale at all in this area. When I saw it in the case I jumped on it abd have not disappointed.

Later last year I became involved in a local pistol club which holds monthly matches. My 5 shot snub put me at a serious disadvantage. Coupled with a desire to have a more potent gun around the house I began looking at my options.

I have a very limited budget so price was certainly an issue. I like Ruger's products but just can't get around the looks of the GP series.

So between the Taurus and the Smith, I bought a Taurus 66. 7 shot 357 magnum for $450. The Smith 686 would've cost nearly twice that.

And again I find myself with a fine handgun that does everything I've asked of it yet.

Now I also just recently traded my wife's KelTec P32 for a Smith 642. And it is also a very fine weapon that I enjoy very much.

It does feel to be a higher quality product than the Taurii. But it does just exactly what the cheaper guns do.

Oh and I have to say out of the box the trigger on my Smith was much worse than the Tauruses. Much much tighter.
 
Maybe a Taurus is all they can afford. I don't look down my nose at people that have them. In fact I have a Taurus 605, a Taurus PT92 & I bought my daughter, she picked it out, a PT111 Millennium Pro. All shoot great, never had a problem with any of them & none have had to be sent back to be fixed. :)

Can't say the same with several of my Smiths.:mad:
 
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mstem said:
Maybe a Taurus is all they can afford. I don't look down my nose at people that have them. In fact I have a Taurus 605, a Taurus PT92 & I bought my daughter, she picked it out, a PT111 Millennium Pro. All shoot great, never had a problem with any of them & none have had to be sent back to be fixed. :)

Can't say the same with several of my Smiths.:mad:
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wasnt knocking taurus or people that buy them at all in the OP....just someone holds a mdl 36 in one hand and a mdl 85 in the other and says which do you want both are 400.00...choice is obvious to me..and yes there are problems with all makes especially semis

....guess i should have said i was mainly talking revolvers
 
I run into people all the time who say the have a gun they want to get rid of but don't know where to get rid of it or what it's worth. Most aren't sure of the manufacturer or the model. I think folks decide to buy a gun and go out to see what they can afford, or what they are willing to spend. They just want something they can use to plink, target shoot, or protect their home. I have nothing against anyone for what they buy. Heck, I smoked Swisher Sweets for years. I thought they were the best. I still know folks who smoke them daily and hate the 8.99 cigars I smoke. It's all about what you want and what you want to spend...not always what you can afford.
 
In the end the price will dictate what the majority of people will buy. And that's just that.

I had a terrible experience with Taurus and I won't ever buy or advertise another Taurus firearm. In my case it was less the product and more the people behind it.
 
Revolvers are just like any other durable good: if it's not something you're really interested in and don't demand high quality or the latest & greatest, people don't see the value in spending the extra money.

Most handguns aren't going to see 1/1000th the use of cars, appliances, electronics, stuff we use everyday. Thus even a Taurus will out-live it's original owner.

I am something of a revolver snob. It's S&W, Ruger, and, in the past, Colt & Dan Wesson for me. But even I have my limits. My dream shotgun (and it will remain such unless I win the lottery, which I don't play) is a Berretta ASE-90, and I'd love a Freedom Arms revolver. Even though I could swing the latter, since I don't compete I'm sihlouette or serious handgun hunting, I can't justify the expense. Besides, for a high-powered hunting revolver, a Ruger or X-frame would fill my needs for less money.
 
MOONDAWG said:
I own a variety of different brands of firearms including selections from Taurus & Charter arms that no else makes a comparable product to.

I don't go along with gun snobbery nor bigotry towards folks either. If one doesn't like a particular brand, don't buy it; but by the same token don't belittle those who do.

I've had S&W's, Rugers & GLOCKs "break". Those I couldn't replace parts on were returned to the factory for repairs.

Anything manmade can and will break, if it were not so they'd be no Rolex or Rolls-Royce repair centers.
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I'm rolling with MoonDawg!
 
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