SQUIB removal I need help

I have one, sorta the "ultimate" mouse gun. And while mine has never done this, I have a couple of thoughts.

Ammo can certainly be the cause of a Squibb. But, two different brands of recent manufacture properly stored seems unlikely. Lately I have been using some Elsy of unknown origin found at a garage sale, no mas.

The LGS I bought mine from said that due to import restrictions (GCA'68) Taurus makes the "snubby" with a 4" or so barrel in Brazil. AFTER it is imported Taurus (Miami) cuts the barrel to 1 7/8" and adds a front sight. So, if true (I know, how can anyone doubt a story heard at the LGS) in addition to the possibility of the barrel being too tight (manufacturing defect) there is the possibility that cutting the barrel caused it to deform.

Did both sqibbs "stop" at the same point in the tube?

After the squibb is removed you could use a .177 lead pellet to slug the barrel and see if it is within specs.
 
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Funflyer said:
Taurus had to have known there was a problem with this design for a long time. Read the 4th post in the below thread. Coincidence?

Taurus 17hmr revolvers - PredatorMasters Forums
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Quite possibly a coincidence.
Two instances of the same issue out of thousands produced and sold isn't exactly a common problem that would indicate something wrong with the design or model.

It is pretty suspect that the same gun had two squibs with totally different brands of ammo. On the other hand both batches of ammo were stored together for a significant period of time.

I'd drive the squib out of the barrel and then try shooting a couple of boxes of brand new ammo to see what happens.
 
I just ordered a brass 17 cleaning rod, when I get it in I will try to drive it out and give update
 
NEW OR USED?

If Davidsons has a warranty I'd ask for a replacement or full refund. The squibs are a secondary problem IMO. In technical terms, somthin aint right. Good luck.
 
Since you told Davidson's about the second squib..........
I would not try to remove it until you know what they are going to do.

They might see the barrel being cleared and charge you for damaging the barrel ?
Which could lead to major problems and less of a refund, etc.

Good luck.
 
Nevada Ed said:
Since you told Davidson's about the second squib..........
I would not try to remove it until you know what they are going to do.

They might see the barrel being cleared and charge you for damaging the barrel ?
Which could lead to major problems and less of a refund, etc.

Good luck.
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Davidsons is not going to do anything.....
 
TAG, YOU'RE IT! NOT THAT I WOULD DO SUCH A THING.

For those without a halo & a moral compass a few degrees off, remove the squib & sell it, ASAP. Then try & get a good nights sleep. Trade it in for a S&W at Davidsons, just forget to tell them about the squibs??? Gun shows are a dumping ground for problem children like this.
 
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nachogrande said:
For those without a halo & a moral compass a few degrees off, remove the squib & sell it, ASAP. Then try & get a good nights sleep. Trade it in for a S&W at Davidsons, just forget to tell them about the squibs??? Gun shows are a dumping ground for problem children like this.
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Wow. Just. WOW. :eek:
That's not funny. Even assuming it was meant tongue in cheek.
 
I would drive out the bullet and using a light check the id of the barrel for any dips or bulges showing by the light reflections in the barrel. It would be interesting how hard it is to drive the bullet back out of the barrel. You might put a straight edge against the barrel to see if it is straight or has a slight curve in it.
If the .17 cleaning rod doesn't go through then that could tell you it isn't an ammo problem. You might check out the bullet to see if it has any flat spots that could have been caused by cylinder being out of time.
I have read reports Taurus CS leaves a lot to be desired but that is hear say.
 
Back in 1998-'99 time frame, a friend of mine bought a Taurus chambered in .40 S&W and from the time he bought it that thing would not hold a tight pattern at 20 feet period!! After much practice and discussion we found that, even when locked and cocked, the barrel end was actually REALLY loose!!! He wound up sending it back to Taurus a total of three times but I'll never forget after getting it back after the second return, Taurus sent a target that had about 5 rounds shot through it with good grouping. After looking at it fer a bit I said,"Just a Minute...", walked out to my truck, got a 9mm round and showed him that it was a perfect fit to the hole.

He then took the pistol and target, pinned the target to a stump and shot a hole in it from about 2' away just to make sure he hit it!! :D

Yeah... There was a difference in the hole size!!!:rolleyes:

He got on the phone and basically told Taurus off because they sent him a false target and just what were they gonna do about the gun?? Send it back, which he did, and the gun, to this day, does not shoot straight to the best of my knowledge.....

I told him he should'a bought a Smith..... ;) :D :D
 
nachogrande said:
With Christmas around the corner, some brass polish for all the halos out there. :D Lighten up Francis, it was said in jest. :rolleyes:
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I'm not claiming to be a saint. Not that having enough ethics to object to your suggestion would require sainthood.

Too many people these days think it is OK to pull the kind of underhanded stuff you jokingly suggested. For those of us who have had dealings with them it simply isn't funny. Joking about it kinda' hits a sore spot - ya' know?
 
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hillbillydruggist said:
I have a 17HMR snubnose Taurus revolver. I had ordered it through Davidsons Gallery of Guns. a few months ago I was firing it and had a squib load.
I brought it back to the LGS where I had purchased it, they sent it to Davidsons who sent it to Taurus, they said it was the ammos fault. I ended up paying $112 (which Davidsons & Taurus have warranties).
I just picked it up today, I checked barrel to make sure it was clear, fired one shot, another squib load(this was a different brand of ammo.
I contacted Davidsons, they said contact Taurus who said the only reason for a squib load is the ammo and I would have to pay again.
Is ammo the only possibility?
How do I remove it?

any help would be greatly appreciated, Thanks
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I HAVE A PERMANENT CURE FOR THIS PROBLEM. OPEN YOUR CYLINDER, AND SPRAY SOME LUBRICANT INTO THE BARREL, THROUGH THE FORCING CONE. SECURE THE REVOLVER IN A PADDED VISE, AND PATIENTLY TAP THE BULLET OUT WITH A RANGE ROD, OR LENGTH OF CLEANING ROD INSERTED INTO THE MUZZLE, AND A SMALL HAMMER.....

ONCE THAT TASK IS COMPLETED---SELL THAT TAURUS AND NEVER BUY ANOTHER ONE ! ! !
 
That cure is right on Joe. I conducted NRA PP classes for the enhanced
license here in Idaho for 3 years. I allowed up to 9 students per class.
Each student fired a hundred rounds, so over time a few squibs were
inevitable. I kept a .22 caliber cleaning rod and a makeshift wood mallet
in my tool box. I was able to tap out all the squibs but one. That one
had to go to the gun doctor.
 
A LOOK INTO THE FUTURE.

Taurus replaces the barrel & then you have timing issues??? Ya think a replacement would be faster/easier/cheaper for them than "fixing" it. A lemon that will change hands MANY times in it's future??? It's your right as an American to buy whatever brand you want. Live and learn, the lessons cost more with age. :)
 
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