chaparrito
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Seems to me a safe like that just screams "Hey look here's where the guns are".
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Thin metal all you need is a strong screwdriver and a hammer.
Punch the point of the screwdriver threw that light gauge material and once in hit the side of the blade with the hammer.
Repeat side hits a few times in a couple vital directions and GUESS WHAT you now are in like Flint!
RJJ 1971
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I agree with the Stack On safes being what several have mentioned already... storage cabinet, gym locker, kid or smash and grab deterrent.
Btw - any safe can be opened if a thief has TIME and KNOWLEDGE.
So it helps if you have nosey neighbors.
Btw - any safe can be opened if a thief has TIME and KNOWLEDGE.
So it helps if you have nosey neighbors.
I agree with the Stack On safes being what several have mentioned already... storage cabinet, gym locker, kid or smash and grab deterrent.
Btw - any safe can be opened if a thief has TIME and KNOWLEDGE.
So it helps if you have nosey neighbors.
Partially true.
I can open most any safe by drilling one hole and use a scope to open it. So, you must have the right tools and knowledge. And it's not quick and easy.
Thieves don't have this knowledge. If they did they certainly aren't going to go for the average gun owners safe.
The point is to make it more difficult for them.
Partially true.
I can open most any safe by drilling one hole and use a scope to open it. So, you must have the right tools and knowledge. And it's not quick and easy.
Thieves don't have this knowledge. If they did they certainly aren't going to go for the average gun owners safe.
The point is to make it more difficult for them.
Not to be a wise guy but your looking at it as a professional locksmith and want to do a neat job.
Me I'm looking at it as a 40 year construction worker/ welder that has many years of bending, cutting, drilling, welding and other methods of working or mutilating metals of all sizes and consistence's. If neatness and noise does not count much I will get in and most times rather fast!
Fishslayer
US Veteran, Absent Comrade
Better than nothing and as has been pointed out, if a pro wants in badly enough... whatever ya get though, bolt it down. You would be surprised just how easy they are to roll away if you know what you're doing.
If you have a local Tractor Supply go have a look. They have Cannon ridiculously cheap. The model that's twice as big as mine is about $200 more than I paid...
If you have a local Tractor Supply go have a look. They have Cannon ridiculously cheap. The model that's twice as big as mine is about $200 more than I paid...
Philadelphia Patriot
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I have a stack on gun cabinet. It's not so much to keep my guns out of thieves' hands but rather keep my guns secured for when my cousins' kids come over. I think burglar alarms are more important than gun safes, but don't get me wrong, gun safes also play a huge role if your house catches on fire too.
My son and his friends......
My teenage son and his friends would be into the guns , period, if they weren't really locked up. I wouldn't put it past one of his friend to actually steal them. That is my main motivation for getting one. I do have a burglar alarm for the outsiders.
My teenage son and his friends would be into the guns , period, if they weren't really locked up. I wouldn't put it past one of his friend to actually steal them. That is my main motivation for getting one. I do have a burglar alarm for the outsiders.
RJJ 1971
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That is honestly my biggest fear (others peoples kids) getting into my firearms.
Girl/Boyfriends aren't allowed over while we aren't home (no matter how much we like them).
That is why no one is allowed in our bedroom. No one has a key to my safe but me (and it's always on me). Even when I don't drive, my keys come with me.
If true "thieves"wanted to get into my safe - it probably wouldn't deter them very much.
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There was a single guy East of us out in the country who had an impressive gun collection with some VERY collectible guns. He wasn't afraid to show em' to a lot of people because he had very big and expensive, top of the line gun safe. But one day he was gone and someone stole a septic tank truck and rammed it through the side of his house and winched it up and drove away.
Where there's a will....
Where's there's a will there's a way. Often you are being scoped out whether you know it or not. I met a 'sanitation engineer' one time that made no bones about scoping out people's houses and passing the info onto their cronies. And about 100 teenagers, and not the 'kid next door' know the layout of our house. Even the kid next door gave us a lot of trouble one time.
Where's there's a will there's a way. Often you are being scoped out whether you know it or not. I met a 'sanitation engineer' one time that made no bones about scoping out people's houses and passing the info onto their cronies. And about 100 teenagers, and not the 'kid next door' know the layout of our house. Even the kid next door gave us a lot of trouble one time.
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RJJ 1971
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Buddy of mines dad had his sliding glass doors smashed in on his back porch, and 2 out of 3 of his gun safes were dragged out of his house.
Makes me think about how some people have some pretty big balls - but no brains.
Makes me think about how some people have some pretty big balls - but no brains.
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I agree with the Stack On safes being what several have mentioned already... storage cabinet, gym locker, kid or smash and grab deterrent.
Btw - any safe can be opened if a thief has TIME and KNOWLEDGE.
So it helps if you have nosey neighbors.
True, why it's nice we live in a community with retired elderly, they're like human video camera's.
Rastoff
US Veteran
There's a lot more to it than just having lugs. If those lugs aren't supported properly, they're just decoration.
Look, I've said this before, the "safe" in question is definitely better than just keeping them in the closet. Even so, if you care about your guns, look long and hard into the thing you store them in.
Not to be a wise guy but your looking at it as a professional locksmith and want to do a neat job.
Me I'm looking at it as a 40 year construction worker/ welder that has many years of bending, cutting, drilling, welding and other methods of working or mutilating metals of all sizes and consistence's. If neatness and noise does not count much I will get in and most times rather fast!
I agree. But again the point is to make them work for it. How many thieves bring cutting tools and equipment with them? In over twenty years I've seen one safe that someone tried to cut open with a gas operated saw. They were still unsuccessful because it was taking too long. Not to mention the noise.
Most thieves knock the dial and the handle off.
The two things you need to open the safe. I'm not here to argue with anyone. I'm simply sharing my experience. Which would be considerably more than most people.
Now, if someone is always home. You have big dogs, and/or an alarm system, then yeah buy a cheap safe. Just hope it doesn't break with normal use and don't go on vacation.
More often than not the cheap safes break before any thief can attempt to open it.
And most often they cannot be repaired and parts are not available.
It would seem logical that most thieves would travel light and the tools they may use are what is already in the home, that way they can carry more perceived valuables. If they're prepared with tools then they already know what is in the home and most likely have done their research.
While we're somewhat on the subject of securing your items, have any of you seen the zillion Master lock video's? [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kxlTtTZLI[/ame]
While we're somewhat on the subject of securing your items, have any of you seen the zillion Master lock video's? [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kxlTtTZLI[/ame]
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