Steps to get carry permit in New Jersey

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Now that the United States Supreme Court held that it violates the Second Amendment of the Constitution to require “sufficient need” to get a carry permit, New Jersey is supposedly going to issue many carry permits to ordinary people.

Here is what it takes:

1) You need to own a handgun as the carry permit will only be issued for a gun you own and on which you qualified. For those who already have a handgun in their name in New Jersey this is not a big hurdle. For those who do not have a handgun they have to go through the handgun purchase process.

2) You need to find your Firearm Identification Card.

3) You need to be able to find written proof that you are the owner of the handgun(s) to be put on your carry permit. This can be hard to do if you bought the guns(s) awhile back.

4) You need to find a handgun training/qualifying course at a time and price you can afford. The cheapest are about $125 and it can take upwards of a week to find one with an opening. It was $25 more to test on a second gun.

5) Complete the training and qualification course. This is not hard if you are familiar with your gun. You must put 40 of 50 shots inside the person shape on an FBI Q target. First 10 shots are at 25 yards so you need to be a somewhat good shot to pass.

6) Pass a written safety/law test. Not sure if this is part of the law but it was part of my course.

7) Fill out the application in triplicate and get it notarized.

8) get three people who have known you for at least three years to sign your application as references.

9) bring your application in triplicate to the local police station.

10) Submit with your application:

A. Drivers License

B. Birth certificate or passport or proof of resident alien status.

C. Mental health form authorizing the search of all your mental records

D. Proof that you own the gun(s) you want to carry

E. Proof that the you qualified on the gun(s) you want to carry.

F. $50 money order to the Treasurer, State of New Jersey

G. 4 color photos head and shoulders. 1.5”x1.5”.

H. Your Firearm Identification Card.

11. When you submit your application at the police station you get a case number you must use when signing up to get electronic fingerprints.

12. Find online a place to take your fingerprints (this is not so easy as every place in New Jersey is booked solid and it costs an extra $40 on top of the regular $40 fee to do it in New York or Pennsylvania where there are plenty of openings.

13. Get you fingerprints taken

14. Wait to hear if you are approved.

15. If approved, it may be necessary to go down to the court house to pick up your permit.
 
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What POSSIBLE point is there in both a passport and a birth certificate?

What if you don't know three people?

How do you prove you own a gun you are in actual possession of? It isn't like a car where they send you a title and registration.
 
What POSSIBLE point is there in both a passport and a birth certificate?

What if you don't know three people?

How do you prove you own a gun you are in actual possession of? It isn't like a car where they send you a title and registration.

Correct. I meant drivers license plus passport, birth certificate OR proof of resident alien.

Three people is no joke. Many people in New Jersey do not want to sign a form as a gun reference for anyone.

When you buy a gun in New Jersey you get a piece of paper from the state for that gun.
 
Michigan has similar requirements. Differences are just one reference and the CPL (Concealed Pistol License) is a permit to carry ANY handgun, even ones you do not own.

Michigan also requires that all those with a CPL be registered to Vote, probably snuck into the law by a Pro Gun legislator who wanted to maximize the number of pro gun Voters. There is also a list of driving violations that can remove you from qualifying for a CPL for 5 years while that offense "falls off" you driving record. In addition Family Violence resulting in criminal charges or a Restraining Order will disqualify you for IIRC 7 years. Michigan also does a full records search in every single Court District in the state so any court proceedings will be investigated to see in they provide an indication of Reckless or Irresponsible behavior. Getting a Lien against your home or business for a Contractor you failed to pay may disqualify you for a CPL. Basically the Law is written so that Hotheads, Slackers, and Idiots are weeded out. As a result there was a time when a CPL in Michigan indicated to the State Police you were a "good guy" and many times a minor speed infraction would turn into a warning. Unfortunately enforcement of these standards had degraded a lot due to "discrimination concerns by state lawyers" so there are now way too many idiots who have been granted CPL's.

Michigan has also had Handgun Registration since the 1930's and it's a joke. Because there is no provision that I have been able to find for removing a handgun from the Registry when you sell, or gift, a handgun. As most folks do a bit of trading with their firearms that pile of paper sales registrations dating back to the 1930's is both mostly out of date but also nearly impossible to search. BTW the failure to register a handgun is a civil infraction with a maximum fine of either 500 or 750 dollars.
 
NJ seems to have taken a page out of NY playbook. They make it so burdensome that people will get frustrated and stop trying.
 
I like our process in Wyo better. The steps are:

1. Acquire firearm. This can be done through the regular 4473 process if buying from a FFL or you can buy direct from a friend/other with no checks or paperwork. Might want to get a holster too.

2. Carry your gun as and mostly where you wish, open or concealed, no permit required.

That’s it. Contrary to the predictions of many, we’ve had no blood running in the streets. I guess most already consider us “the wild, wild west” so not much to say there. It’s a shame that so many cops spend so much time pushing paper so you can exercise your rights. The streets could be a lot safer if those people were actually spending their time on the streets rather than in the office.
 
Montana, buy gun, either from FFL or face to face. Face to face means you hand over money, they hand over the gun. I saw 4 guns at yard sales yesterday in our town of 6000. If from a FFL, once FFL holder gets OK and you hand him the money he will hand you your gun and you can stick the gun in your pocket or what ever and walk out the door with it. No permit of any kind needed. No waiting either, it's now 100% your gun.

If you want a permit for states that do not follow the US Constitution, or don't want to bother your FFL with having to make the phone call, you can pick up a form at the sheriffs office or just down load it from their web site, fill out front and back of 2 sheets for first permit or just one sheet for renewal. Take $50 in check or cash, plus drivers license to sheriff office, if renewal $25 and old permit. Wait a 5-10 days and pick up permit.

Some sheriffs require some form of safety cert, or military experience or hunter safety card, some may ask you to display some basic gun safety about the most they can ask for is an NRA approved safety course. Here they now take your photo at time of application, you used to have to bring in a pass post photo. They now issue a nice plastic card. When I first got mine here they gave you a sheet of paper and you could take it to the a the store and they would shrink and laminate it to wallet size for a few bucks. There are small variations from county to county. The smaller the county usually the less requirements. Missoula county is the most liberal in the stare and there you need 4 signed references.

Unless you have something on your record that disqualified you per 4473, the sheriff has to explain to a judge in open court why he will not issue. I have never heard of this happening, but I suppose it has for some odd reason.

link to applications and instructions
Fergus County, Montana - Concealed Weapons - Sheriff
 
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Good grief! It looks like they threw every encumbrance they could come up with at you. It will be interesting in a year or so to hear how many people made it through that obstacle course. Once a few people are denied, I figure there will be lawsuits.
 
NY was almost as bad and you had to prove your life was in danger on a daily basis or prove that you handled at least $5,000 in cash on a weekly basis. Then you would wait about a year to hear from the PD lic. Bureau. Your approval or denial was sometimes dependent on which officer you drew and what mood he/she was in that day. Now that the SCOTUS changed that, we’ll see……. Thankfully I no longer reside there!! :)
 
Moved to Kentucky 4 years ago. Then a permitting carry state. 8 hour class, then a 5 year license to carry. Renew license online after that.
Now it’s constitutional carry, but we keep the permits as we occasionally travel out of state.

I don’t think we would live in a state like that….

Regards, Rick Gibbs
 
I surmise there are more gang bangers in NJ carrying concealed than permit holders. How do the politicians explain that?
 
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