tacticool22
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It's super simple. Remove the barrel nut, slide the barrel out.
Stock 15-22 Flash suppressor
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do a search for barrel nut tool. there is a thread about it.
tacticool22
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Yeah i removed the barrel myself. Whipped up a tool in a couple min. Slide it down the end of the barrel, remove the nut and pull apart. It very simple and some gunsmiths I called wanted and extra $70 to do it
Wow, I need to change careers. $70.00 for 2-3 min work. Thats some good money. However you get the rifle apart, be careful with the ejector. It is attached to what is called the "barrel extension" in these posts. It is fairly soft and can bend in an instant. There are 2 heavy duty fancy roll pins that hold the extension onto the barrel. I would not remove them. Most any cometent machinist can thread a barrel. After all it's just a precision tube.
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I'm looking into getting the barrel threaded and adding a flash hider and wondered if anyone can tell me the difference between A1 and A2. Also, for compensators they list pre-ban and post-ban, what is the difference there? Thanks!
A1 flash hider has ports all the way around. A2 only has ports on the sides and top to keep the muzzle blast from kicking up dust in the prone position.
mattz357
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Thank you, Thomas, good info... though it does make me wonder why S&W used the A1. I guess the M&P comes with a compensator instead of a flash hider, according to the S&W site, but what is the difference?
tacticool22
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Semantics mostly. Some districts (9?) don't allow flash suppressors (probably too scary sounding and looking for them) so they are re-named compensator, "to reduce felt recoil" i've read. S&W needs to sell to as many markets as they can, so their wordsmiths probably work extra hours to appease the law makers. Thought that was supposed to be the people, not the chosen ones. Oh well enough ranting.
If someone has the real definition, please clarify.
A flash supressor's only job is to reduce muzzle flash signature at night so that your position is not given away.
A compensators only job is to direct gases from the muzzle in such a way as to counteract recoil/muzzle rise.
Compensators generally do a very poor job of reducing muzzle flash. In fact they often increase the flash signature.
Flash supressors/hiders can have some recoil compensating effect depending on the design (A2 birdcage has some compensating effect), but the effect is minimal.
If it is truely a A1 flash hider, it is definately not a compensator.
Honestly, the only valid reasons to put a flash hider on a 15-22 is asthetics, and provide an attachment point for a sound supressor (silencer). .22 lr doesn't have much of a flash signature out of a rifle barrel.
When I finally get around to getting my barrel threaded, I'm going to thow on a PWS FSC556 (compensating flash supresor) to protect the threads until I can a afford a can. The FSC556 isn't cheap, but it is a fantastic compensator (for 5.56 at least) with minimal flash signature. Not to mention it looks good to. I'd also consider the PWS TTO (same thing without the flash hiding part).
ETA: If I had to guess as to the reason S&W went with the A1, I would guess it's to keep production costs down. A1 flash hiders are just spun on, torqued down and you are good to go. A2 flash hiders have to be timed (indexed) to the barrel so that the ports are oriented properly. It doesn't sound like much work to time a flash hider, and it isn't. But when you add that time up over 1000's of rifles, it adds up to a significant cost that must be passed on to the consumer.
A compensators only job is to direct gases from the muzzle in such a way as to counteract recoil/muzzle rise.
Compensators generally do a very poor job of reducing muzzle flash. In fact they often increase the flash signature.
Flash supressors/hiders can have some recoil compensating effect depending on the design (A2 birdcage has some compensating effect), but the effect is minimal.
If it is truely a A1 flash hider, it is definately not a compensator.
Honestly, the only valid reasons to put a flash hider on a 15-22 is asthetics, and provide an attachment point for a sound supressor (silencer). .22 lr doesn't have much of a flash signature out of a rifle barrel.
When I finally get around to getting my barrel threaded, I'm going to thow on a PWS FSC556 (compensating flash supresor) to protect the threads until I can a afford a can. The FSC556 isn't cheap, but it is a fantastic compensator (for 5.56 at least) with minimal flash signature. Not to mention it looks good to. I'd also consider the PWS TTO (same thing without the flash hiding part).
ETA: If I had to guess as to the reason S&W went with the A1, I would guess it's to keep production costs down. A1 flash hiders are just spun on, torqued down and you are good to go. A2 flash hiders have to be timed (indexed) to the barrel so that the ports are oriented properly. It doesn't sound like much work to time a flash hider, and it isn't. But when you add that time up over 1000's of rifles, it adds up to a significant cost that must be passed on to the consumer.
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It is amazing to see the difference.
I've got some American Eagle .223 that will blow out a blinding flash about 6 inches or more in diameter and about 1-2 feet long in bright daylight out of a 16'' with no flash suppressor. Shoot it through a flash suppressor and there is no flash.
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