SW Spec series ... Steel frames are back?!

[3rdgenfriend]

Not sure if this should be on the M&P thread or here but saw this on a video from Shot Show 2025.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/spec-series-v

Has anyone here had the chance to shoot it / hold it yet? Seems really expensive at 1699 USD but a lot comes with it, and man, to my eyes it's a looker !!

Would love to hear more about this new offering by S&W... thanks in advance for sharing your experiences and replies 3GF

 

[stansdds]

I think this belongs in the M&P forum as it is another version of the metal frame M&P.

 

[s&wchad]

Not sure if this should be on the M&P thread...

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/spec-series-v

Yes, this thread belongs in the Smith & Wesson M&P Pistols sub-forum.

I'll move it for you.

 

[ladder13]

That should keep the “plastic” haters at bay for a few hours.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

Not sure if this should be on the M&P thread or here but saw this on a video from Shot Show 2025.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/spec-series-v

Has anyone here had the chance to shoot it / hold it yet? Seems really expensive at 1699 USD but a lot comes with it, and man, to my eyes it's a looker !!

Would love to hear more about this new offering by S&W... thanks in advance for sharing your experiences and replies 3GF

That pic hurt my eyes..........What's that growth on the front.?

 

[Ameshawki]

Be a nice race gun if that's what you're looking for. Not my thing, to each his own.

 

[hardluk1]

At 37oz + empty and the $1700dollar price tags not sure its going to be a hot seller but it s&w is more about products to sell than quality control so we all may read about how these perform .

I could take a 5" PC model metal frame for 1000 dollars retail , add a treaded apex gun smith fit threaded barrel easy to fit at home and an apex fst kit for a far better trigger and still be a slightly cheaper to build even with a compensator of choice added but know I would have a pistol that can shoot 1" 25 groups , maybe even less .

I have a early 4.25 core with a apex GF barrel and trigger kit upgraded now and with a 2moa green dot can mange 1.20" 25 yard groups from a bench and rest , MY oldest grandsons slight better with it . No comp on it and still easy to carry.

 

[reddog81]

but a lot comes with it,

How much is a magwell, a challenge coin(or whatever stupid name they are using), a ginormous compensator and a $10 knife really worth?

 

[murphydog]

Don’t have a dog in this hunt, but given the different material and production processes to make a steel frame the cost is probably many multiples of the cost of a molded plastic frame. Seems a bit heavy for a carry gun but someone will do it.

 

[Gman556]

I just want to know what the difference between a treaded barrel, and a threaded barrel is????

 

[Beju]

At 37oz + empty and the $1700dollar price tags not sure its going to be a hot seller but it s&w is more about products to sell than quality control so we all may read about how these perform .

I could take a 5" PC model metal frame for 1000 dollars retail , add a treaded apex gun smith fit treaded barrel easy to fit at home and an apex fst kit for a far better trigger and still be a slightly cheaper to build even with a compensator of choice added but know I would have a pistol that can shoot 1" 25 groups , maybe even less .

I have a early 4.25 core with a apex GF barrel and trigger kit upgraded now and with a 2moa green dot can mange 1.20" 25 yard groups from a bench and rest , MY oldest grandsons slight better with it . No comp on it and still easy to carry.

MAP is $1499, and they're selling fine so far at that price or less from the 'email for quote' sellers.

I doubt that there's any mechanical accuracy gain over any other M&P 2.0, but it'll also work right out of the box without any fitting.

Some people, myself included, think that the aluminum frame models add no practical value over a polymer frame. I didn't find there to be any recoil reduction over the polymer when shot back to back, and the M&P frame isn't a flexy Gen 3 Glock frame. Aluminum doesn't necessarily add any durability, either. It's traditionally more abuse resistant to impact related damage, but less resistant to high round count fatigue failures (especially in .40 S&W or .357 SIG).

Because of that, many of us have been saying that we'd prefer a steel frame if we're going with metal. The extra weight absorbs more recoil than aluminum, and this steel frame should comfortably be under the IDPA ESP weight limit of 43 oz (it's also well under the USPSA Production/Carry Optics 59 oz limit), even if you use heavy aluminum baseplates/extensions. You can just pull the comp for production classes, and put it back for Open/Limited. Steel is also generally the strongest frame material. More abuse resistant than polymer, more fatigue resistant green aluminum. Weight isn't necessarily a negative for competition pistols, so the main theoretical negative is less corrosion resistance. Even then, modern metal surface coatings like nitriding and DLC do an excellent job of preventing rust (at least if you're not SIG).

 

[Narragansett]

I don't like the potato at the end of it. I am just old school when it comes to semi autos. Standard 1911 or Browning HP. A couple of the Sigs are OK

 

[dben002]

That pic hurt my eyes..........What's that growth on the front.?

Color really does not get it.....I will have to wait for the pink/lime green version,

 

[dben002]

Don’t have a dog in this hunt, but given the different material and production processes to make a steel frame the cost is probably many multiples of the cost of a molded plastic frame. Seems a bit heavy for a carry gun but someone will do it.

Seems a bit heavy YES...but you will know who's got one, they will be listing in one direction or another........

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

I don't like the potato at the end of it. I am just old school when it comes to semi autos. Standard 1911 or Browning HP. A couple of the Sigs are OK

Nobody has said yet what that glob on the end of the slid is.......A Hi-point has more pleasing lines

 

[Narragansett]

Nobody has said yet what that glob on the end of the slid is.......A Hi-point has more pleasing lines

It's a CD player

 

[IAM Rand]

How much is a magwell, a challenge coin(or whatever stupid name they are using), a ginormous compensator and a $10 knife really worth?

Free with the purchase of a gun. I like it. It just doesn't fit a need with me. Waaaaaaaay too big for a duty gun. I am assuming that they are marketing it more toward the competition shooters. I say good on S&W. Keep on going.

Oh yea, how bout my matching FPC and M&P 45 combo now.

 

[CALREB]

Everybody is trying to get some of that John Wick/Taran Tactical money you see people paying on the auction site. Put some more zigs and zags on it hang some stuff off it. Just a bit much, for me, but I am an old guy. I bet they are selling them.

 

[murphydog]

I just want to know what the difference between a treaded barrel, and a threaded barrel is????

The treaded barrel has extra grooves for better snow traction.