Do the new deflectors have a different layout than the original? The original has slots all the way to the end and maybe 1/4" of solid material between the last slot and the edge.
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Do the new deflectors have a different layout than the original? The original has slots all the way to the end and maybe 1/4" of solid material between the last slot and the edge.
Freeway
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Yes, the new deflectors are slotted only about half way. The aft end is solid.
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Freeway, I really happy to hear you are having better results.
On all 4 of the new designs for the deflector shield, I shrunk the slots and moved them further forward. But they seem to still cause an issue.
I have been working on another redesign on the 25° and 45° deflector shields, and with the revision I will be completely removing the slots the brass deflector. Once the revision is completed and they are made, I will send those out to the testers for further feedback.
On all 4 of the new designs for the deflector shield, I shrunk the slots and moved them further forward. But they seem to still cause an issue.
I have been working on another redesign on the 25° and 45° deflector shields, and with the revision I will be completely removing the slots the brass deflector. Once the revision is completed and they are made, I will send those out to the testers for further feedback.
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Majorlk
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My range has some major construction going on this week so I can't shoot. It would be interesting to do that with the 25 and the two 90s and see what happens.
Freeway
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The last time I tried the 25 degree, it worked well. I'm tempted to mount it again and have another go.
It really does seem, at least for ME, that the slots are\were the problem.
It really does seem, at least for ME, that the slots are\were the problem.
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My contention all along.
lonejacklarry
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I got into this discussion late, I guess. The deflector model I have is one of the early models, I think, and it has never been a problem.
The ammo of choice has always been CCi MiniMags and the ammo, rifle, and deflector have always been problem free. There were other problems w/ other ammo choices but I stopped using the "other ammo choices" before I got the brass deflector.
Occasionally, I will find brass sitting on top of a spent magazine after the bolt locks back. It falls out w/ the magazine change and so is not a problem. I don't do much rapid fire other than the 5 or 6 round bursts but there has been no problem there either.
I'm happy w/ mine and so is the person to my right at the indoor range.
Edit of above info: The rifle has been problem free since an early return to S&W for "current updates" whatever that entailed.
The ammo of choice has always been CCi MiniMags and the ammo, rifle, and deflector have always been problem free. There were other problems w/ other ammo choices but I stopped using the "other ammo choices" before I got the brass deflector.
Occasionally, I will find brass sitting on top of a spent magazine after the bolt locks back. It falls out w/ the magazine change and so is not a problem. I don't do much rapid fire other than the 5 or 6 round bursts but there has been no problem there either.
I'm happy w/ mine and so is the person to my right at the indoor range.
Edit of above info: The rifle has been problem free since an early return to S&W for "current updates" whatever that entailed.
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Freeway
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lonejacklarry,
Perhaps your experience helps validate the theory that the ejection patterns are different between rifles. Different types of ammunition may also play a part.
Thanks for the information!
Perhaps your experience helps validate the theory that the ejection patterns are different between rifles. Different types of ammunition may also play a part.
Thanks for the information!
Majorlk
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Both theories are valid. Also velocity effects both ejection speed and angle.
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Just wanted to give everyone an update on what's going on with the project.
I have done a redesign on the 25° and 45° deflector shields and I am waiting on the shop to knock out some more prototypes. Once I get them in they will be going out to the testers.
I have removed all of the cutouts and extended the shield down a little bit further to hopefully stop some of the brass that escapes and and bounces around.
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45°
I have done a redesign on the 25° and 45° deflector shields and I am waiting on the shop to knock out some more prototypes. Once I get them in they will be going out to the testers.
I have removed all of the cutouts and extended the shield down a little bit further to hopefully stop some of the brass that escapes and and bounces around.
25°
45°
Freeway
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Looks good so far! I really appreciate the time and effort you have put into this project.
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Majorlk
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Looking forward to trying the newest iterations.
Money well spent in this case. I use the 45 degee proto all the time now, and people to my right think it's the best thing ever invented.
Freeway
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Hope to visit the range again soon. Had neck fusion surgery last week and I'm not feeling very well (yet). Going again the first chance I get. Still looking forward to the new design(s)!
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Can I get "Gopher Slayer" etched on the side of one of the new plinkin' plates? 
...or maybe some lines that look like the slots on the older versions.
...or maybe some lines that look like the slots on the older versions.
" I'm giving her all she's got, Captain! "
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I received the new 25° and 45° deflectors and tested them out last night. I am happy with the results and hopefully this is the winning solution. The deflectors will be shipping out to the testers and we will see what they have to say.
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I was planning on doing this for the original design, but the cost of hardware, extra machining steps, and assembly would make the part very expensive.
Can I get "Gopher Slayer" etched on the side of one of the new plinkin' plates?
...or maybe some lines that look like the slots on the older versions.
I will be offering a tactical sharpie that will allow you to "etch" any types of shape or lettering you want on virtually any surface all for the low price of about three fiddy
If I could offer custom engraving on the deflectors I would, but it is just not doable for me.
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I will be offering a tactical sharpie that will allow you to "etch" any types of shape or lettering you want on virtually any surface all for the low price of about three fiddy
If I could offer custom engraving on the deflectors I would, but it is just not doable for me.
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Rough estimate if everything works out, 6-8 weeks. It could be more or less.
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RedNeck Jim
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I haven't followed this thread lately. I purchased one initially and had to take it off due to all the failures. I apologize if this has been discussed, but is there any thought to having an option for a brass catcher? Could it be designed to accept something like the Caldwell or similar?
I think it will be because the last version was so close. I keep the 45 degree on one of my 15-22's all the time and love it. I'll be sure to post my feedback when I get the new proto..
