Taser question

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Saw a guy (future client no doubt) get tased by the office yesterday. After he quit flopping and they had picked him up I got to wondering. What do they do with all the wires and stuff??? do they rewind them or is it a part of a cartridge that they just snap of throw away and put on a new one?? If they snap in a new cartridge, how much do they cost??
Just a random musing-but it did get me a thinking-which can be a dangerous thing.

 

[nostraDONus]

A somewhat related question. Why are police officers required to get hit with a taser before they are able to use one on duty? They may be required to use their firearm while on duty, but they are not required to get shot to be able to carry one.

Just wondering.

 

[USAF385]

A somewhat related question. Why are police officers required to get hit with a taser before they are able to use one on duty? They may be required to use their firearm while on duty, but they are not required to get shot to be able to carry one.

Just wondering.

Because they need to realize how painful this non (less) lethal weapon is so they don't use it willy nilly.

Yes... willy nilly.

I get what you're saying... it is strange.

 

[mgjohn]

One shot, one time use, replaceable cartridge.

Guess you can blame the lawyers for the be a zapped cop to use a Taser
training, same with a lot of the pepper sprays they carry.

 

[GatorFarmer]

Saw a guy (future client no doubt) get tased by the office yesterday. After he quit flopping and they had picked him up I got to wondering. What do they do with all the wires and stuff??? do they rewind them or is it a part of a cartridge that they just snap of throw away and put on a new one?? If they snap in a new cartridge, how much do they cost??
Just a random musing-but it did get me a thinking-which can be a dangerous thing.

New cartridges each time. I think fifty bucks or so per, but I'm going on memory there.

For those interested, a new generation of personal body armor is actually taser resistant.

 

[feralmerril]

Too bad, a new cartridge every time. Otherwise somewhere, sometime a victim might sue for getting aids!
Once years ago I had one friend hit another friend. He got blood poisoning in his hand and almost died from it! (Hit him in the teeth.)

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

New cartridges each time. I think fifty bucks or so per, but I'm going on memory there.

For those interested, a new generation of personal body armor is actually taser resistant.

So when I see that extra $50 "cost of investigation" in the Court Cost breakdown that's what it's for.

Did I ever tell you guys about the time a stun belt mal functioned up in the courtroom. The thing starts beeping as an early warning (we think a cell phone set it off)-client's eyes get BIG cause he knows what's about ready to happen-the deputy is frantically pushing buttons to shut it off and and suddenly the guy starts flopping around like a beached mackrel and foaming at the mouth. Mistrial declared and everyone is trying hard to keep a straight face. In the aftermath-everyone agreed that it was a shame that it happened but if it had to happen to someone this was the guy. Two days later the DA figured the guy had taken his lick and dropped the charges.

 

[rewster]

Did I ever tell you guys about the time a stun belt mal functioned up in the courtroom. The thing starts beeping as an early warning (we think a cell phone set it off)-client's eyes get BIG cause he knows what's about ready to happen-the deputy is frantically pushing buttons to shut it off and and suddenly the guy starts flopping around like a beached mackrel and foaming at the mouth. Mistrial declared and everyone is trying hard to keep a straight face. In the aftermath-everyone agreed that it was a shame that it happened but if it had to happen to someone this was the guy. Two days later the DA figured the guy had taken his lick and dropped the charges.

Thanks, Caj !

Wow ! First I've ever heard of a stun belt

You learn something new here every day - whether you want to or not

 

[sipowicz]

A somewhat related question. Why are police officers required to get hit with a taser before they are able to use one on duty? They may be required to use their firearm while on duty, but they are not required to get shot to be able to carry one.

Just wondering.

It takes away the curiosity factor once you see your fellow officers writhing around on the floor...it's also fun to watch.

 

[WC145]

A somewhat related question. Why are police officers required to get hit with a taser before they are able to use one on duty? They may be required to use their firearm while on duty, but they are not required to get shot to be able to carry one.

Just wondering.

As with being sprayed, the idea is that after being exposed the officer will know the level incapacitation he can expect if a taser or OC is used against him. Some people are less affected by them, OC in particular, most people can continue fighting through pepper spray if they want to. On the other hand, in most cases the taser renders you helpless, at least for the 5 seconds you're being shocked, and you can be shocked over and over as long as the darts stay in place. This is why a threat with a taser, even though the taser is considered "less than lethal", can be responded to with deadly force - if it was used on him the officer wouldn't be able to defend himself or protect his weapon(s).

I do not carry a taser but I have had the opportunity to "ride the lightning". let me just say that it's a loooong 5 seconds!

 

[jimmyj]

Hi:
Taser Cartridges are about $50.00 each. The air cartridge is a one time use. Afterwards the wires, prong, and empty cartridge is recovered and turn in to supply and to receive a replacement one. Each officer carrys three-one in the Taser with two extras in a pouch on the taser holster. After the suspect is controled the prong is removed from his skin by the Officer as EMS personel will not as the prong is an "Impaled Object". Most Tasers will give a five second "Jolt" with a single trigger squeeze. If the Officer holds the trigger back without releasing it, the taser will continue to "Jolt" the suspect. Each air cartridge has a small disk with a serial number which flys out with the prong and wires. This numbered disk will identify which Officer's Taser was used. Also the Taser Gun can be plugged into a special computer and the number of jolts and length of the jolt can be checked.
The last suspect I "Tasered" turned out to be high on Alcohol, Marijunna, Cocaine, and PCP. I tasered him a total of six times with out any effect, broke a 26" Asp on him after his threw off two K-9 dogs along with three Officers. As I was beginning my trigger pull on my Sig P-229 .40-sight picture on his upper lip, he passed out.
Jimmy

 

[Odinkar]

I thought the cartrige was only 25.00, but I could be wrong. We have to book the cartrige, wires and probes into evidence after we use it. We have to have a doctor remove the probes. I had the first use of a taser and had to show the doc how to do it.

 

[handejector]

On the other hand, in most cases the taser renders you helpless, at least for the 5 seconds you're being shocked, and you can be shocked over and over as long as the darts stay in place.

I like how Jeff Foxworthy puts it, while pretending to hold a game controller-

"Just playin' with my remote control convict..."

 

[therevjay]

Because they need to realize how painful this non (less) lethal weapon is so they don't use it willy nilly.

Yes... willy nilly.

I get what you're saying... it is strange.

Do you use it on their willy? Nilly? Thats cold!

 

[4864]

The Department I use to work for also required us to book the used cartridge in as evidence. I hope I never have to be hit with a Taser ever again! That was the worst pain I have ever felt in my life. I still have the video of me getting hit in training. Hurts to watch it.

I have the Taser C2 which is for Civilian use. Got on for the little lady too. I think it is a great defensive weapon. The big thing that bugs me right now is the misuse of it by Police. I think that these Departments and Officers never got hit with it in Training like I and many other Officers HAD to do in order to carry and use it. The local PD got issued Tasers shortly after the Sheriff's Department I worked for got them. The Police Department didn't want to spend the time or money to have all Officer take a hit. The Sheriff's Department didn't make me or any one else do it but it was strongly recommended we did. Have a better felling now about possible use.

 

[charlie sherrill]

I don't carry one but have been around lots of times when one was used. Most of the time you only have to pop them one time although I did see one guy popped three times after I emptied by pepper spray cannister. It kept us from having to shoot him. I was called to the Evaluation Center (the building with rubber rooms) yesterday. They had let one of the patients out to exercise and instead of peacefully going back to his rubber room he tried to kick his way out of the building. I got there first and tried to talk him down. He was going through the usual "voices" thing. He wouldn't listen to me much until the taser guys got there. He wasn't so crazy that he didn't know what was going to happen next. With a little pushing we got him back in his room. While talking to him I learned he was a pilot for an airline. "Fly The Friendly Skies."

 

[mm6mm6]

When I was trained for OC spray and for the Taser, I asked that very same question. "I don't get shot with my gun, why do I have to get sprayed or Tasered?" Of course, that was what we all said because we simply didn't want to get the bad end of the stick.

Many people don't know that when a Taser is fired (and yes, the cartridges are expensive, around $50 each), hundreds of tiny confetti come out the blast doors and each piece is serial numbered to the cartridge.

We don't have a general order that the Taser wires or leads or prongs have to be saved.

As part of our training, we were shown numerous videos of cops getting Tasered. The first one said, "F%#*!!!!!!!!!!!!" Then all the others said the same thing when they were tasered.

Then we watched this video:

Bull Gets Owned By Taser - LiveVideo.com

We told to make note of how well the bull was incapacited. And we were told to watch how quickly the bull recovered. And we were told to watch how angry and capable the bull was after he recovered!

I noted that when Tasered, the bull said, "F%#*!!!!!!!!!!!!" in bull speak!

The newest Taser, the X3, is capable of firing three separate cartridges (incapacitating up to three separate subjects, or firing a follow up shot after a prior miss). It's also capable of showing a warning arc and drive stunning (contact) with cartridges in place.

 

[raisedin99]

YouTube - tazered

caution: graphic language

 

[Goldstar225]

In my agency the cartridges, wires, and probes are placed into evidence. The officer removes (plucks out) the probes unless they strike the face or throat. If the face or throat are struck we transport to the ER for removal.

 

[VictorLouis]

I 'shot' my C2 just because I couldn't see carrying anything I haven't at least tested. That was the most expensive reload EVER, at $25 apiece. However, I know now there's no perceptible recoil, very little noise, and little mess to clean up.