Tell me about Single Action clones

My first handgun was a ruger single six. I probley shot that thing more than all the handguns I have put together. --- Well a lot anyway. The point is I got used to them first before my smiths and other colt DA`s. You get right down to it the ONLY thing a SA gives up to DA for me is fast reloading. Yeah, I know a faster hammer fall too but I am no longer a good enough shot to tell the difference
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I have several Ruger Blackhawks , but wanted something different. Can't see spending $1500 on a real Colt because I want to shoot it, and occasionally shoot it with black powder handloads. So I went with a Cimarron , made by Uberti. Uberti , now owned by Beretta , makes a high quality SAA clone. They make them for several importers/distributors. Cimarron has just about any variation you can think of.

 
Most who really know the SAA clones opine that the U.S. Firearms guns are superb; arguably the best. Some, such as this one, were made "under the onion dome" in the old Colt factory in Hartford. The quality of the fit, finish, case hardening and blue is amazing. I have a matching 3rd generation Colt; the USFA piece is superior. They are admittedly a bit pricey.

John

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Problem is they quit making them and they tell me they are going out of sight.
 
Cabelas use to sell Uberti made guns and I got one very reasonably. I have been pleased with it, but honestly don't fire it a lot.
 
I love my 4 5/8 " Super Blackhawk (with a bit of spring work) and ... gasp!!! Hogue grips. I just shoot it better than any gun I own.
 
I had various clones over the years and sold the last 20 years ago.When the bug came around again,I bit the bullet and bought a colt.Took a few weeks to work up the nerve to shoot it though lol.They ain't cheap!
 
I've heard that US Firearms will start production of their Single Action revolvers again in 2015. I'm waiting to order another one at that time. I have tried a Smith & Wesson Schofield and a Remington 1875 clone, but they don't feel right in my hand. A Colt (or clone) Single Action just feels right.
 
My first venture is the Uberti Remington open top 1872. Having recently purchased a handgun in 45LC, I was aware of the price and decided to order mine in .38. After figuring out the strange hammer safety, I enjoy it. I think I walked out at about $430.
 
In 15+ seasons of Cowboy Action matches, I shot most of the SAAs and found all of them had good qualities.

I favored Colts, and the clones were many. The ones I liked best after the Colt, was the AWA American Western Arms and the EMF.
There a variety of models, some imported & some US made.

If yer like MOST Cowboy shooters, it don't matter what ya start with....before long you'll be looking for excuses to buy something else.....but because they're so enjoyable, and each has a little more bit of Western history to learn.

I had a pair of shorty Sheriffs birds head New Model Vaqueros that were pretty dern close to Colt balance. Never a problem with either.

My USFA 45 was magnificent cosmetically but it just never did really FEEL like a Colt should.

I never could get used to the balance of the Schoefields.

You'll find things to like about any of 'em.....but some will fit your hand better. Some look just right & some just don't feel right regardless of how the fit your grip.

I had a brace of 1890s Gen 1 Colt I shot with black powder for quite a spell. The cartridge BP class in SASS matches is different than the cap & ball models, which have their own virtues.

Probably the very BEST 'clone' SAA was a 4 digit 1956 Colt 45 SAA that absolutely fit my eye & hand....but cosmetically very challenged. That was stolen to my great sadness, as 40 years use had honed it to perfection.

You don't need to get new shiny Colt's to be able to enjoy their virtues.

Then there's the carbines.....and the shotguns.....it was a long era from Civil War to WW1, where the SAA was pretty much the buyers market. Modern models have better steels & even stainless if you want.

So many guns.....so little time.
 
Some years ago I was working at a gun shop, and a customer came in and asked to look at our selection of SAA types. I was showing him what we had, a couple Ubertis and the like, and a used Colt or two, when another customer came up and joined the conversation.

Now, I know most of you are probably thinking, "Uh-oh...another gunshop guru who can't wait to share his opinion on everything"...but it was nothing like that. This gentleman was very knowledgeable about all of the different builders of SAAs, and had owned and shot most of them in the SASS. He offered his opinions on the pros and cons of the various makes and models, without completely denigrating any of them, and without potentially quashing any potential sale I might be about to make. To be honest, since I had very little working knowledge of them at that point in time...I only knew what I had read, so I was thankful for the information, and for his assistance with my customer.

After the 1st customer left, I continued to chat with the 2nd customer, and I grilled him a bit more for info on SAAs, because I was interested in getting started in SASS shooting. After a bit of conversation, he boiled it down to this...he said the Ubertis and similar Italian clones were decent guns for the money, but...he said he only bought Colts now. He said that he could own the Colt for years, shoot the bejeesus out of it, and sell it for practically the same amount he'd paid for it originally. He said he could never do that with the clones. And, in the meantime...you're shooting an honest-to-god Colt.

Unfortunately, I believe that the Colts he was accustomed to are a thing of the past. I did go ahead shortly thereafter and purchase a sequentially numbered pair of 5 1/2" nickeled Colts, in .45 Colt/.45 ACP. They've worked quite well for me.

However, at the same time, a very good friend of mine bought an identical gun, and it had to go back to Colt for a myriad of problems. After six weeks or so it came back, and it was pretty much in the same condition. He sent it back again, and after many weeks and many phone calls, they finally admitted that it was so fouled up that it could not be fixed, and so they sent a replacement gun...which has been fine. This is not a great statement, when these guns, supposedly, had come through their Custom Shop!

I did note that, when looking through the manual on my Colts, it states about every other page (in bold red lettering) that the owner should consider not firing his new Colt, as it would seriously depreciate its "collector" value. It makes one wonder if they anticipate that most buyers are not planning on shooting them, therefore they can't be bothered to waste time unnecessarily making them usable, better to just make them look pretty, and discourage new owners from ever shooting them.

I did also manage to acquire a USFA SAA. It's a beautiful gun, and I'm very pleased with it. Luckily, I bought it when they were reasonable (I believe I paid $500 or $550), and I'd always intended to get one or two more, but the prices started to go through the roof. Sadly, they no longer seem to be building them.

I know the OP isn't too keen on Rugers, but I have to add that I also happened upon a great deal on a SS Vaquero in .45 Colt/.45 ACP. It's a smooth little shooter, and it feels great in the hand.

All-in-all, I'd hate to get rid of any of them. Maybe someday I'll find a nice deal on an Uberti or some such that I just can't pass up. Let's hope so!

Tim
 
Tis Uberti made Schofield was my SA revolver for the last 16 year.
I shot more than 10.000 rounds with it. In those years I did replaced the trigger, the cilinderstop and mainspring. The accuracy is good. Aldo you have to work out the point of aim. For me it was right under the target.

It has only one big flaw. Made in .45 colt the forcingcone is to the cilinderax that thin that it is ripped.

If you ever buy a second hand one be aware of this. Take the cilinder out. And look to the forcincone if it is ripped.

The Schofield is gonne now and I am waiting for an other Uberti made Cattleman. I bought on Colt SAA clone with a 5 1/2 inch barrel in .45 colt.
I do have a second generation Colt in .45 with a 5 1/2/ barrel and I like the balance of it. I have a lot of experience with Uberti. I have seen good products and some very bad ones.
Very bad workmanship on several products. But that was a few years ago.

I do own also a Uberti made Colt Open Top in .45 Schofield. Itis in my collection becouseI can's afford a Original Colt.

It is a nice build revolver. But when you shoot it you have to clean it to. It is a Open Top. So you have to take the revolver always apart to clean it propperly. That does not work in time very well for this revolver.

The Cattleman is a nice revolver who preform well. I have to wait till mine comes in. The picture is made by the seller.

You alone can choose a SAA. Pick the one you like and feel comferteble with it.

Also a picture of almost all of my replica's. You find a Uberti Stallion in .22lr a very bad made Adler Jager. Two weihrauch revolvers, the Open Top and a Hammerli Virginian.
 

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I purchased a Cimmaron Model 1872 "Man With No Name" revolver. The gun is a modern copy of the movie prop gun used by Clint Eastwood in 'The Good, The Bad & The Ugly'. Basically an 1851 Colt Navy with a loading gate and no ejector rod.
The reason I bought this non-prototypical revolver was I love the 1851 &1860 Colt revolvers, but get tired of the massive mess shooting my black powder cap & ball replicas. The Cimmaron 1872 looks like an unmodified Colt until you get really close. Made by Uberti, it has a superb finish. Best part is it takes standard velocity .38 Special ammo. Good fun gun at the range.

If I ever decided I need to scratch my real SAA itch again (had a Colt and Sold it- to much money to put any wear on!) I will buy a Cimmaron.
 
I've heard that US Firearms will start production of their Single Action revolvers again in 2015. I'm waiting to order another one at that time. I have tried a Smith & Wesson Schofield and a Remington 1875 clone, but they don't feel right in my hand. A Colt (or clone) Single Action just feels right.

I sure hope USFA does start up its SAA line. I have a USFA Pre-War in .45 Colt that is built as well as any of my 5 screw Smiths. I've never owned a Colt SAA so I can't compare the two, but I'd have a hard time believing there's a quality difference between them.
 
I had 2 Cimarron artillery Models that I loved (Ubertis by any other name.....). I switched to SAAs for SASS. Recently, I inherited some money and expanded my single action "collection" (accumulation, actually). I must have at least 30, maybe 40, Here's a few things I learned over about 50 years of shooting "hoglegs":
1. A Colt is a Colt.. NOTHING handles like it. My VERY favorite is a first generation 38-40 with a 4 3/4" barrel. I have original Bisleys, nickels, Sheriff's, 7.5 ", 5.5", Colt Lightnings & Thunderers, 1878 Frontier double actions and even a 1902 Philippine. There is just SOMETHING about a Colt. My future BBQ gun will be a first generation, nickel-plated 41 long Colt with real pearls. (It needs a new hammer and trigger-the result of a previous owner fanning it)
2. For power, dependability, and carrying in the field, nothing beats an Old Model Ruger, especially one that has been converted to carry 6.
3. People with smaller hands seem to like the new flat-tops.

If you are gonna only get one and don't need the super-magnum-dinosaur-killing power (I live in grizzly country), get the Colt. You won't regret it. Check out Gunbroker. Don't mess with bidding. Use the "Buy it now" option. Get a 45, or 44 spl. (the 44-40 is a bit hard to reload). You should be able to get a good one for under $1300, with box. Get the 5.5" as a compromise.

Good luck!
 
I sure hope USFA does start up its SAA line. I have a USFA Pre-War in .45 Colt that is built as well as any of my 5 screw Smiths. I've never owned a Colt SAA so I can't compare the two, but I'd have a hard time believing there's a quality difference between them.

I have an original Colt Single Action with a 4 3/4" barrel in .45 Colt. The serial number is 1681XX. It is in excellent original condition. I believe it was made in 1896 or 97. My USFA revolver was made with a 4 3/4" barrel in .44 Special, and the special serial number was 1681XX, the same as my Colt. Side by side, they show the same quality of workmanship and the same feel and balance. When Doug Donnelly starts making them again, I'll be buying another one.
 
Here's my Ruger Sheriff in .44 with a MERNICKLE holster and yes, I carry it.

I'm with you on the Ruger Sheriff in a Mernickle (yes, I carry mine too...on occasion)



but, since the OP doesn't want Ruger...
I have a Cimarron Arms clone of an 1858 Remington NMA.
It is factory converted to 45Colt, and has an ejector rod.
It is made by Uberti, but has higher quality control and mine has been SUPER accurate and has excellent bluing and fit and finish.


 
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