After looking at the pictures that where posted ,especially the one of the end of the bolt i noticed something very interesting. I do not have an extractor. I really didnot know what they did or what they even looked like until now. I took it back to Gander and they are going to ship it back to s&w for me along with a letter from me detailing my discuss with the situation. Hopefully i will get it back fully repaired and in good working order like it should have been from the get go. thanks for reading, pghrich bty i did not have any OOB's