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[RobertJ.]

But they're SO heavy!

I saw a Model 4006 last year at my LGS, and that was my thought. (At the time, I was carrying either a Colt DS or a 39-2) Then, after a little research I talked myself into buying it. After a couple hundred rounds to make sure everything was kosher, I made it my constant companion. Yes, it's heavy, but 12 rounds of .40 S&W is comforting.

Now, if I saw a 4506, I'd buy it on the spot.

Good post, BTW.

 

[18DAI]

mbliss57 I keep a list of what my friends and a few good customers are looking for. When the good stuff walks in the door, the owner and manager get first dibs, then me. If the three of us pass on it, someone on "the list" gets called. And we work down the list till it gets sold.

On the rare occasion nobody takes it, it goes in the sales case. Pre lock revolvers don't last a day in the case. Most of them don't even get to the case. Used Colts? Rarely find their way to the case.

PM me what you are looking for and I will keep an eye out for you. Be advised, Jeppo has first dibs. Regards 18DAI

 

[TTSH]

mbliss57 I keep a list of what my friends and a few good customers are looking for. When the good stuff walks in the door, the owner and manager get first dibs, then me. If the three of us pass on it, someone on "the list" gets called. And we work down the list till it gets sold.

On the rare occasion nobody takes it, it goes in the sales case. Pre lock revolvers don't last a day in the case. Most of them don't even get to the case. Used Colts? Rarely find their way to the case.

PM me what you are looking for and I will keep an eye out for you. Be advised, Jeppo has first dibs. Regards 18DAI

Where am I on your list? And how the Hell did the Jeppo get in there before me?

Life isn't fair.

 

[mbliss57]

mbliss57 I keep a list of what my friends and a few good customers are looking for. When the good stuff walks in the door, the owner and manager get first dibs, then me. If the three of us pass on it, someone on "the list" gets called. And we work down the list till it gets sold.

On the rare occasion nobody takes it, it goes in the sales case. Pre lock revolvers don't last a day in the case. Most of them don't even get to the case. Used Colts? Rarely find their way to the case.

PM me what you are looking for and I will keep an eye out for you. Be advised, Jeppo has first dibs. Regards 18DAI

Jeppo? Ok what do I have to do to supplant him? Give up my 4566 Melanite?
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BTW I never realized you were from or worked in Nassau county. My wife is from LI and I actually lived there for about 6 months after we were married. Our daughter was born in Huntingtion Hospital 1983. We lived in Hicksville, NY if you can believe the name until the apartment we were in burned down. (Duplex, the lady who lived on the 1st floor left a pan of oil on the stove while she went to the train station to pick up hubby from work) A tale I tell occaisionally and one that is true... was that we did not have renters insurnce. We had contacted the insurance company and an agent was coming to see the apartment and contents at 6PM THAT evening. I was in the City working and called my wife to say that I would be home at 6 in time for our meeting. As I pulled up to the house in Hicksville about 5:45PM there were fire trucks eveywhere and I thought to myself ..I wonder where the fire is?" AsI got a bit closer I saw it was our place and there were firemen on the roof with axes. Everyone got out ok but I did not know that when I saw the scene. You talk about a frightened and heartstopping few minutes.
Since then we have always procurred homeowners/ renters insurance before moivng into a place. Tough lesson. The good news was we were poor newly weds of about 3 years and didn't have much anyway. I have alwasy wanted to see the look on the insurance agents face when he pulled up that day.. it must have been priceless.
Anyway, that was enough of a sign for this country mouse to move west back to my home town in rural Allegany County NY with a total population under 20K people.

 

[18DAI]

I lived in Massapequa Park till my father retired and we moved to NC. North Carolina is not the end of the world, but you can see it from here.

As soon as my wife retires, we are out of here. Wife wants Florida, which is a suburb of NY. I am pushing for Idaho.

And yes, a Melonite 4566 (my old one?) puts you at the top of "the list", above Jeppo AND TTSH. Best regards, 18DAI

 

[TTSH]

I lived in Massapequa Park till my father retired and we moved to NC. North Carolina is not the end of the world, but you can see it from here.

As soon as my wife retires, we are out of here. Wife wants Florida, which is a suburb of NY. I am pushing for Idaho.

And yes, a Melonite 4566 (my old one?) puts you at the top of "the list", above Jeppo AND TTSH. Best regards, 18DAI

Selling out for Melonite... Oh 18! How could you?

 

[18DAI]

TTSH my friend, you could up the ante. Say, a 4506 "dash 3" with adjustable sights?

THAT would put you numero uno! Regards 18DAI

 

[mbliss57]

I lived in Massapequa Park till my father retired and we moved to NC. North Carolina is not the end of the world, but you can see it from here.



As soon as my wife retires, we are out of here. Wife wants Florida, which is a suburb of NY. I am pushing for Idaho.



And yes, a Melonite 4566 (my old one?) puts you at the top of "the list", above Jeppo AND TTSH. Best regards, 18DAI

Interesting.. Idaho. Our daughter ( 1 of 5 - the Huntington hospital child) Just moved with her husband and 3 children to Spokane. He is a lung /thoracic surgeon. It's 45 minutes from Coeur d'Alene, Idaho which is where we have our eye out for retirement. They want us to move to Spokane but I want a more gun friendly state. I think WA is going to go the way if CA and OR. Another thread for another time.
And yes that would be your old 4566. I believe we have traded that back and forth 2 or 3 times!


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[TTSH]

TTSH my friend, you could up the ante. Say, a 4506 "dash 3" with adjustable sights?

THAT would put you numero uno! Regards 18DAI

Oh shame 18! Is that considered bribery or extortion? Or both?

Sadly, you speak the truth about who gets first, second and third shot on any and all highly-desirable trade-in guns. That's why it's so hard for poor old everyday fools like me to ever score in a big way. Everyone is in line in front of me... even the Jeppo.

Funny, but I've been contemplating that very subject lately... i.e., the nature (and absurdity?) of gun collecting as a hobby in a world where everyone else is in line ahead of you. And even worse, you can't monitor all the shops at the same time. It's impossible. You can only visit so many in any given week. The very gun you might want you might miss just because you were there on the wrong day or out of town for a day. That's why I lost a magnificent Model 19-2 for a bargain price just a week ago. Major bummer!

What's the point of this hobby when the cards are stacked so heavily against you? That's poor old TTSH's question to contemplate for this week.

 

[Jeppo]

Mbliss...

You could simply sell the 4566 to Jeppo which would move you immediately to the top of HIS list.

 

[TTSH]

Mbliss...

You could simply sell the 4566 to Jeppo which would move you immediately to the top of HIS list.

LOL!!! Am I the only member who thinks of the Jeppo as the "Mr. Haney" of Team 3rd Gen?

 

[vigil617]

Say, a 4506 "dash 3" with adjustable sights?

Didn't know you were looking for one, 18, or maybe I was just thinking it had to be adjustable night sights. Sent you a PM.

 

[CALREB]

Good thoughts 18, Ive tried to help out a few of my wifes friends who made some bad EDC choices. Hope all is well.
Sold my melonite 4566 5 or 6 months ago , guy came back 3-4 times but finally paid my price. He had it on GB a while ago for a couple hundred more, which he may get someday.
Finally got all the wifes projects done , so now maybe I can start on my own. Take care Bob

 

[vigil617]

My new-to-me 4506-1 just picked up this week.





No box, three mags with yellow followers. Night sights dead and marked 1999. I'm hoping it's a dash 3 model, but I guess only a letter will tell for sure. It's a LJF prefix and I haven't found a dash 3 reference to that one, but curiously, I found reference to another model entirely -- the low-production 5906 Modelo Militar -- having that prefix. Pretty good trigger, although it had "trigger click" in SA until I did the trick with the leaf spring. Barrel is ever-so-slightly hard to get in, as the bulge at the end catches the end of the opening in the end of the slide, so maybe -- maybe -- it's a dash 3. Anyway, now I have a legit "big boy" 45 to go with my 4566 and 457S. And I think it was a deal at six bills delivered to my LFS.

Now, what to do with that complete 4506-1 slide I have that mates up to the 4566....

 

[GaryS]

A couple of questions/comments about your excellent suggestions.

First, I find my 457 very accurate without excessive recoil. Maybe if I had a Stainless version, I'd think differently. Some days I shoot that better than my 39xx compacts. Like you, I have the standard grips with a grip sleeve over it. In my case, it's a Pachmyar, I think you prefer Hogue. Tomato - Tomahto.

The question. Is there a there a disadvantage to practicing at 25 yards? I know that legal considerations make the threat being closer better, but I would think that being accurate at a greater distance when not under stress might translate into being more accurate at a closer distance when one IS under stress.

That aside, you've inspired me to put my Laser Lyte electronic target back up and spend 10-15 minutes a day practicing my 3rd Gen trigger pull. Plus, I plan to get to the range once a week for live fire.

Thanks for the tips.

Do you have Hogue grips on the 4506 or 457? I would try that, or a rubber grip sleeve over the OEM grip. That way the twisting motion or torque during firing amd recoil is reduced. Anchors the gun in the hand, for me.

Then I would get a bag of snap caps. Put a piece of tape on the wall, around 10 to 15 feet away. Practice basics, to start with. Grip, stance, sight alignment, trigger control. Don't let your finger leave the trigger. Maintain contact with it.

Watch your sight alignment. Does the front sight jog left or right as you break the shot? Tighten that grip a little and make sure that you don't have too much finger on the trigger. The edge of the pad of your finger, forward of the last joint, should rest on the trigger. Practice a smooth, constant steady pull - all the way through till the hammer falls. Practice in DA only till you see that your sight picture is no lomger disturbed before or during the hammer falling.

Once this is accomplished, practice DA for the first shot, then thumb cock the hammer to practice the SA portion. When you feel proficient, get a quater. Lay it on the top of the slide. Now practice your grip, stance, sight alignment and trigger pull without the quater falling off the slide. In DA and SA.

15 minutes of dry fire, every night for a week. You WILL see an improvement at the range. It is cheap practice that pays big dividends.

And don't give up on the 457. I have a hard time being accurate with mine. It is light and slim. Harder to shoot well than the other models. Were I you, I would master the trigger on the 4506, first. Dedicate yourself to becoming proficient with it first, before moving on to the 457. Whether that takes a few weeks, a few months or a year.

I have a friend who is in his 7th month of shooting ONLY his revolver. He is dedicated to improving his skill set. I admire him and his determination and discipline. I have shot with him several times and he is actually pretty good. But he doesn't believe me. He is going to work on his trigger control and only shoot that one gun for the rest of the year. I have tempted him to try some nice and rare pistols - but he is focused and refuses to shoot anything else. Very admirable. He will be successful.

My last suggestion would be to bring that target in from the 25 yard line. In a defensive shooting, if the targets 25 yards away, you should be looking for cover and calling 911. Prosecutors take a dim view of folks shooting others beyond 10 to 15 yards. Ask me how I know that.

Start at the 1 or 3 yard line. Work the basics, just as you did in the dry firing sessions. Then move it out to 5 or 7 yards once you see that you are getting good hits and wearing a jagged hole in the 10 ring. Then go to 15 or 20. If you start getting rounds outside the 10 ring, slow down, bring it back in and work the basics. You seeing a pattern here?

Crawl, walk, run. The results of a determined effort will reward you. Hope this helps! Regards 18DAI

 

[18DAI]

CALREB good to see you my friend! I sold one of my Melonite 4566s. I have seen the one you are talking about. I see he is an optimist! Glad to hear all is well with you. Good luck on your projects. I am sure they would be of interest to me!

vigil617 Thanks! And congrats on the 4506-1! She is a beauty! I was thiniing the KJF prefix was salesmans samples. I know my black 4566, KJF prefix was a salesmans sample. But with your info on the Modelo.........dunno....

GaryS no, there is no "disadvantage" to training at 25 yards. Except maybe that new shooters doing it get frustrated quickly when they shoot huge "groups" or miss the target entirely. So being I was training new shooters, with the intent to defend themselves vs bullseye shooting, I always start them up close.

And when teaching advanced shooters, I use varying distances. Especially if it is an outdoor range where we can move and shoot. And usually there is at least one target at the 25 yard distance......and it is usually partially obscured or half covered by a "no shoot" target. They have to get their moneys worth. Right? Regards 18DAI

 

[theothermikeg]

First though allow me to save some folks some time. If you believe that the dreaded DA/SA is an insurmountable problem or detriment to accurate marksmanship, hit your back button now. If you believe a "manual safety will get you killed!" hit that back button. And if you believe that firearms companies are today "...making some of the finest handguns ever made!" hit your back button. Thanks!

I love this. I just got back my 6906 from S&W with a new barrel and a 3rd gen action package. Figured I'd reacquaint myself with the trigger after shooting and carrying a 1911 for almost 10 years. After about 250 rounds I realized that I shoot the Smith better than I've ever shot the Colt, even in DA. Now I've got a serious jones for a 4506.

 

[nocents]

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I love this. I just got back my 6906 from S&W with a new barrel and a 3rd gen action package. Figured I'd reacquaint myself with the trigger after shooting and carrying a 1911 for almost 10 years. After about 250 rounds I realized that I shoot the Smith better than I've ever shot the Colt, even in DA. Now I've got a serious jones for a 4506.

just curious....did S&W have a new 6906 barrel available?

 

[deputydon]

I carried a 4506-1 for a number of years. Pistol always performed
admirably. Along with 2 extra mags & the other items on the belt keeping the trousers up was sometimes a problem. I never considered carrying it concealed. Interesting concept but will be unable to test as the ole .45 went to a new home last spring

-don

 

[theothermikeg]

just curious....did S&W have a new 6906 barrel available?

Yes indeed. I sent it in for an action job and to have them diagnose a POA/POI problem (shooting 2"-3" low). Turns out my barrel was shot. They replaced it free of charge.