The Complete 3rd Gen Model List
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A quick forum and web search came up empty. It could be an error in the SWSC (I've found quite a few of those), but it could also be a very small run of grail guns. I included it noting that none are known to exist.
I did another small update to square away all the RSR production quantities and serial numbers. Information was gathered from the SWSC and a handy production letter posted on this forum.
A link has now been added to the bottom of the original post that will open the excel file. Feel free to save your own copy, but please keep sending updates so I can maintain the original file.
The excel file has two tabs, one for production 3rd gens and one for performance center models.
The excel file has two tabs, one for production 3rd gens and one for performance center models.
Awesome list!! THANKS!!
Great effort and information. I have a 4013 I purchased in October of 1991. It has a 3.5 inch barrel, decocking levers on both sides, it's single stack. You have it listed as single action, but mine is double action. The serial number begins with
TVD65XX. Thanks
John
Agreed! Perfect timing. As someone pretty new to S&W I have been looking at a 3913 or similar model for carry this really helps sort them out.
Thanks!
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Hey skjos, I just found another model it is a 469 frame marked pistol in a box marked 4690 all 3rd gen characteristics, it is not a RSR serial numbered model, I have a letter ordered from Roy.
Still waiting for Chief-wahoo's letter, but in the meantime I made miscellaneous updates, including adding the interim and pilot models discussed in his thread "http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/425847-my-non-rsr-transitional-family-growing-pics-added.html".
OMGoodness, Skjos! This is one heckuvan undertaking and list! What a piece of work! I know, I've been compiling a first-gen list over the past five, maybe six years.
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Hey Skjos, received my letters and seen you have the product codes same as mine, but I have different prefixes,
My product code for this model is ; 103719 model #6450 (TBW)
Model 6590 TBS Prefix,,
Model 4690 TBV Prefix
Model 4590 TBY Prefix,,,
My latest purchase is a model#7450 product code 103906,,
As far as number of units produced Mr Roy did not provide me with any, but recent Blue Book states 100 units produced in 1990 with adjustable sights
My product code for this model is ; 103719 model #6450 (TBW)
Model 6590 TBS Prefix,,
Model 4690 TBV Prefix
Model 4590 TBY Prefix,,,
My latest purchase is a model#7450 product code 103906,,
As far as number of units produced Mr Roy did not provide me with any, but recent Blue Book states 100 units produced in 1990 with adjustable sights
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On the 9mm single stack 4" pistols, (3904, 3906, 3944, & 3946) you show their magazine capacity at (8) rounds.
I understand that the early models came with mags that only held that many but they were later changed so that they held (9) rounds & was the only size offered in the end, as well as for the later model 909.
The 3.5" barrel 9mm single stacks (3913/3914/3953/3954s) had (8) round magazines.
The (8) round 4" & the (8) round 3.5" pistol magazines however are physically not the same.
Would it be possible to change the magazine capacity listing for 4" models to read "8/9 rd", showing both sizes & avoiding any confusion with the 3.5" model's mags?
Thanks again for putting this list together & maintaining it for us.
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I understand that the early models came with mags that only held that many but they were later changed so that they held (9) rounds & was the only size offered in the end, as well as for the later model 909.
The 3.5" barrel 9mm single stacks (3913/3914/3953/3954s) had (8) round magazines.
The (8) round 4" & the (8) round 3.5" pistol magazines however are physically not the same.
Would it be possible to change the magazine capacity listing for 4" models to read "8/9 rd", showing both sizes & avoiding any confusion with the 3.5" model's mags?
Thanks again for putting this list together & maintaining it for us.
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We can't say it enough here: THANK YOU, skjos, for the great service you provided, and provide, this Forum with your ongoing projects for the production and Performance Center Third Gens! What amazing contributions they are to this hobby that we all enjoy!
FWIW, my 3914NL has a TJB prefix.
Outstanding! Nicely done!
6944 add TZB6778 & TZB6817 3rd variation trigger guard (curved)
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Update on 6944 - I have found 4 in the TZB serial number group that SW says were made in 1993 with a Product Code 108138 with curved trigger guard. Range is TZB6740-TZB6778-TZB6813-TZB6817 though there is no guarantee that all the in between numbers were 6944. Also I have found photos of TVD examples with rounded trigger guard.
FWIW I have a 3953 TJB3xxx Mfg Date 6/91 per SW, 3914NL TJB6xxx 9/91, 3913LS TJB8xxx 5/92
I think it has been around a year since the last list update, look to the revision description for updates.
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The file linked at the end of the original post is a sortable Excel version of the file.
As always keep the information coming.
If your browser is pulling up the old version of the list, you will need to clear your cache or wait a few days for your cache to update.
The file linked at the end of the original post is a sortable Excel version of the file.
As always keep the information coming.
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So the list for the 3954 shows barely 500 made? That's crazy! I am lucky enough to have one with the box and papers.
Also I noticed that the 457D for CPD is not listed as another member mentioned.
And wowzers what a great job on this list!
Also I noticed that the 457D for CPD is not listed as another member mentioned.
And wowzers what a great job on this list!
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Not sure if you want to add, but the 1086 was issued to the wspd for a short period and that's where most of the 1660 produced went
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Holy ****!!!!! As you I am lucky to have one box and papers. I put 2 mags through it. Previous owner ran about the same through it. Guess I'll have to send in for a letter from S&W for it. And my 457 D also.
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