The Current CCW Environment

[glenncal1]

On Thursday last week I decided to go see the movie Lawless (which I liked BTW) and was just about in the garage when I realized I hadn't grabbed a CCW gun.

My first thought was, "oh now big deal, I am just going to the local theatre. Don't need to worry about carrying."

After the rest of my brain kicked in, "oh ****, it was just about a month ago that a nut job went to a movie theatre about 7 miles away and killed and wounded many people."

Back upstairs, gun in pocket, proceed to the movie. Kind of sad that you have to worry about being armed at the cinema.

 

[PDL]

Actually, the firearms should not be a second thought. It should be the first thing after the belt is buckled.
Not being overly paranoid, plenty of folks are being attacked in their own home.

 

[andrewb70]

On Thursday last week I decided to go see the movie Lawless (which I liked BTW) and was just about in the garage when I realized I hadn't grabbed a CCW gun.

My first thought was, "oh now big deal, I am just going to the local theatre. Don't need to worry about carrying."

After the rest of my brain kicked in, "oh ****, it was just about a month ago that a nut job went to a movie theatre about 7 miles away and killed and wounded many people."

Back upstairs, gun in pocket, proceed to the movie. Kind of sad that you have to worry about being armed at the cinema.

After the Colorado movie theater shooting, the local chain decided to make their theaters a "gun free zone."

I live in Memphis and all of the Malco theaters have posted sign. Needless to say, I am not going to the movies anytime soon.

Andrew

 

[woodsltc]

After the Colorado movie theater shooting, the local chain decided to make their theaters a "gun free zone."

I live in Memphis and all of the Malco theaters have posted sign. Needless to say, I am not going to the movies anytime soon.

Andrew

I consider the right to defend my life and the lives of my loved ones a God given right..........signs or no signs (unless it's a government building or school), my gun is in my pocket or in a well concealed holster and has been long before we had carry privileges.

Don

 

[Alpo]

Another of the joys of the free state of Florida, where "no guns" signs don't mean diddly.

Seems kinda weird, "I need to get a carry gun, because I'm going to a 'bad part of town' ". I got my pants on and I have a gun. Been that way since I got my carry permit. Why bother getting a permit if you're not going to carry all the time?

 

[andrewb70]

I consider the right to defend my life and the lives of my loved ones a God given right..........signs or no signs (unless it's a government building or school), my gun is in my pocket or in a well concealed holster and has been long before we had carry privileges.

Don

I completely understand your position. However, I have a different take and prefer to put pressure on a business by not giving them my money. A private business has a right to make any rules it wants. This is a fundamental part of the concept of free (voluntary) association. Thus, I choose not to associate with any business that does not allow me a means of defending myself. Going to the movies is optional and I have many other entertainment choices to choose from.

Andrew

 

[jaykellogg]

It is my understanding that the Colorado Theaters were "gun free zones" We saw how well that worked out.

It chaps my butt that the anti gun crowds response is to "ban guns". Then if something bad happens anyway they double down and want further restrictions on guns.

About the only place in the USA today you are truly safe from attack with a gun is after security at an airport. Ask yourselves, if we need that level of security to make it work, is it worth it? I mean, do you want to submit to a pat down and take your shoes off to see a movie? Do you want alarms at the exits and armed security in case someone tries to go out an unauthorized exit? I hear it has gotten to close to this in some urban schools.

The Arizona shooter, the Colorado shooter and the VA Tech shooter were all bouncing off the wall nuts. Yet no one thought it prudent to do anything about it other than to force them out of school (then it is somebody else's problem).

 

[26Ford]

Funny, anymore just where is " the bad part of town ". This very morning on Florida local news, since just last night at 6 PM mind you until 7 AM this morning- 3 shootings and 1 stabbing, 1 of the shootings were already listed a FATAL.

The jist of this post is that 2 of the 3 shootings and the 1 stabbing were in Palm Beach County and the stabbing in Wellington. In case you don't know, Wellington is quite nice, actually very very nice!!!!, and the other 2 incidents in Palm beach County were also fairly nice areas for anyone here to live in.

You that have a legal right to Conceal carry a gun- DON'T LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Road Rat]

The best way to work on this issue is to:


Tell the theater owner/operator...............here you are preaching to the choir.....

I made up some of these and freely hand them out to the people working at places with the no gun signs............some have taken the signs down!!
Concealed Carry Business Cards, 4 Concealed Carry Business Card Templates

 

[jaykellogg]

How about I have talked with my attorney and he tells me that since your sign deprives me of the right of self defense that your establishment has assumed that responsability.

 

[andrewb70]

How about I have talked with my attorney and he tells me that since your sign deprives me of the right of self defense that your establishment has assumed that responsability.

I think this might be a stretch because visiting any establishment is voluntary. I do not HAVE to go to the movies. I do not HAVE to go to a restaurant that has a "no gun policy."

If there is an establishment that prohibits firearms, then the proper thing to do is to stop being their customer. It is that simple.

Andrew

 

[old bear]

Kind of sad that you have to worry about being armed at the cinema.

Or anywhere else for that matter.

 

[DWalt]

With a few exceptions, I ignore those signs. If your CCW is actually concealed as it should be, who is to know whether I have one or not?

 

[duppie]

On Thursday last week I decided to go see the movie Lawless (which I liked BTW) and was just about in the garage when I realized I hadn't grabbed a CCW gun.

My first thought was, "oh now big deal, I am just going to the local theatre. Don't need to worry about carrying."

After the rest of my brain kicked in, "oh ****, it was just about a month ago that a nut job went to a movie theatre about 7 miles away and killed and wounded many people."

Back upstairs, gun in pocket, proceed to the movie. Kind of sad that you have to worry about being armed at the cinema.

You at least have the ability to carry, here in New Jersey we have about 1400 CCWs for in excess of 4 million residents, where you have to be a LEO,ex LEO,armored guard, or politically connected to warrant a CCW. We have come to the realization that we are all fair game for the criminals and polititions, which in NJ is unfortunately the same.

 

[wbraswell]

DWalt made me think. I know if an officer asks, you tell him, if you're armed. If someone else asks, like a proprietor, are you obligated to tell him?

 

[Alpo]

Why would you be? If he asks "boxers or briefs?", would you answer that?

 

[jframe]

Put simply, I carry concealed everywhere, all the time. I have a snub Model 19 next to me as I type this, and an old, cut down 870 Wingmaster hanging in the closet loaded with slug, then No. 4, slug, No. 4. Not only don't leave home without it, don't STAY at home without it close either.

 

[RightArm]

Didn't the wierdo in Colorado go out the emergency exit, load up, then come bak through the same way guns blazing. A gun free zone obviously only left all other customers in jeopardy.
Sorry if this has already been covered.

 

[jaykellogg]

I think this might be a stretch
Andrew

I asked my CCW instructor who was a Deputy Sheriff in Heywood county about the no carry signs and he had two things to say. One is "if they deny you the ability to protect yourself they assume that duty." The second is "What part of concealed is it that you don't understand". We're not talking about government buildings and schools, the penalties there are severe. Carrying where there is a sign prohibiting it is a misdemeanor. The guy wasn't a lawyer, so I do not know how much you can depend on the first statement. I would investigate that option if I survived an attack where I wasn't allowed to carry. I cannot understand why the law is even written this way. They took three months to investigate me and then let some shopkeeper prohibit me from carrying.

 

[redlevel]

I asked my CCW instructor who was a Deputy Sheriff in Heywood county about the no carry signs and he had two things to say. One is "if they deny you the ability to protect yourself they assume that duty."
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I cannot understand why the law is even written this way. They took three months to investigate me and then let some shopkeeper prohibit me from carrying.

You ever hear of private property rights?