The joys of air travel... NOT!

Capt Steve

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We do most of our traveling quite comfortably in our Class C motorhome but when our neighbors gave us their condo in Waikiki for a week it was an offer too good to refuse. We hadn't flown commercially for a number of years and having successfully used Travelocity in the past I booked our roundtrip from Phoenix to Honolulu, including a rental car several months ahead of our trip.

Pulled up our trip confirmation a couple of days before leaving and lo and behold our 0800 direct flight to Honolulu on American Airlines has been pushed back to 1400 and downgraded to US Airways (now just an inferior subsidiary of American). I booked a Park and Fly overnight at the Phoenix Radisson so we could leave our car for the week.

About an hour before we were to leave the hotel for the airport I get a Robo call from US Air announcing that our flight was canceled. Travelocity said they would try to get us out the next day which was completely unacceptable.

I called US Air and after 30 minutes got them to book us on a flight to Maui but it came with the same 1400 departure and a 3.5 hour layover in Maui before we could get back to Honolulu. Arrrrg!

Like all flights these days the plane was 100% full with an extra allotment of idiots. We saw enough FAA flight reg violations to shut down the entire airlines. The guy across the aisle from me drank so much wine that he passed out on his girlfriends lap and she couldn't wake him up. A number of morbidly obese folks felt that since they did not fit in their seats with the armrest down they were entitled to raise it and spill over into the next seat.

The flight crew ignored all of this in addition to the overloaded (full of oversized, not even close to the regulation carry on requirements), storage bins with several being left open for an hour or more. Any surprise turbulence would have been a disaster especially for the folks, about half a dozen, who set up their cocktail hour in the aisle despite the seat belt sign being on for the entire trip.

Yep, when you fly you are completely at the mercy of the airlines/travel sites and the great unwashed from the shallow end of the gene pool. We finally got to Honolulu and then had a blast for week enjoying the craziness of Waikiki and exploring the rest of Oahu. Got to surf/boogey board every day and logged 450 miles on our little compact rental car (A Mazda 3 which was very nice and great on gas).

The return flight was a little better as after again downgrading us to US Air and delaying the flight by 2 hours they canceled that flight altogether. Happily American stepped up with one of their aircraft and crew and got us out on time. A favorable jet stream enabled our Redeye to shave and hour off of our return to Phoenix making the flight just 5.5 hours most of which we slept.

It will be a long time before we fly again (if ever), and do yourself a favor and avoid Travelocity/US Air like the plague. Glad we went and glad we are back. It's a little grainy/cell phone shot but here is this 63 old guy having too much fun on the Boogey board I rented for the week at Kuhio Beach:

 
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The guy across the aisle from me drank so much wine that he passed out on his girlfriends lap and she couldn't wake him up.

That's the only way you well ever see me on a plane. Passed out drunk or drugged or both. If that's not possible then I'm not getting on that thing even if I were the only white Jewish western in the middle of ISIS.

Next spring should be interesting. I have to fly to China. How much alcohol and sleeping pills do I need for a 16hr flight?
 
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I know the feeling. My wife keeps trying to get me to fly again and I won't do it. It's just such an unpleasant experience. Lost baggage, 300 lb people taking up half your space, drunks, screaming babies, canceled flights, hour long on board delays, bomb threats, on and on.

I even continued to fly after DHS put me (or someone with my name) on a terrorists watch list but when they started shooting down commercial flights with surface to air missiles I figured it was a good time to hang it up. My wife still flys and never complains about anything.
 
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What annoys me to no end....I bring on pieces that meet the carry on requirement. Yet I can't find room in the overhead as it's full of giant BACKPACKS and FAR larger luggage than meet the max for carry on.
 
Thanks Capt. Steve

Thanks Capt. Steve for reminding me of my many business trips abroad and how exciting airline travel is. The one thing you had going for you to make your experience somewhat bearable (I hope) was that it was a vacation, with fun awaiting you upon arrival. Many of us that get to "enjoy" the never ending cycle of cancellations, late flights, missed flights, getting bumped, over-sized bags (and passengers), crying babies, drunk people, and not-so-friendly skies only have work waiting when we arrive. No boogey boarding for me this week after I touched down in Spain 3 hours ago.
 
my favorite part of air travel is BEFORE you board the plane..............wait in line with photo ID, then take your shoes off (walk wear a thousand other cooties just did), remove all belts, chains, money, wallet, pacemakers, metal implants, dog tags and bend over and smile for the over paid, under achieved TSA agent.....
 
I really don't understand the airline business model at all. Other businesses would go out of business if their level of customer service was so appalling. Yet they continue to cut corners, and passengers continue to fly with them.

I recently read an article that some airlines were going to experiment with 'extra cheap' seats. The seats are essentially stand-up, instead of being fully seated you are in kind of a half squat. This allows the airline to pack the seats closer together, something like another 6" closer.

I'm not sure which is a worse - that airlines are willing to see how far they can push passengers into these ridiculous extremes, or that passengers have become so subservient they are willing to pay money to be treated like this.
 
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We do most of our traveling quite comfortably in our Class C motorhome but when our neighbors gave us their condo in Waikiki for a week it was an offer too good to refuse. We hadn't flown commercially for a number of years and having successfully used Travelocity in the past I booked our roundtrip from Phoenix to Honolulu, including a rental car several months ahead of our trip.
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Sounds like the destination was good, despite the hassles to and from. I've never been there, but seems like it would be a fun place to see if I could drive there!
 
Fortunately, my days of extensive domestic and overseas travel stopped when I retired about 8 years ago. I used to sleep my way through long overseas flights with a Dalmane sleeping pill. They worked too well sometimes. I don't miss those days at all.
 
Legacy carriers

Yes, it does seem as though the US legacy carriers have slid way down in about every metric except perhaps shareholder performance. We've been very happy with Hawaiian Airlines to visit the islands, and used IcelandAir for our european trip recently.
 
I fly all the time, and there is no better way to travel. American merged with USAIR and hopefully in the next 90 days everything will be one. At least you got a soda! and a free condo at that.
 
The American public got what they wanted - cheap fares - no frills and no customer service. Back about 40 some years ago the Civil Aeronautics Board governed airline routes, fares and which airline flew where. There was very heated discussions within the airline industry as to whether they would continue with high end customer service with perks like full meals with linen, hot hand towels, alcohol, etc OR become the cattle hauler airlines. The industry convinced the government to deregulate. After that airlines started to fail - TWA, Braniff, Pan Am, Eastern, Piedmont, Western, Air West, and many more smaller airlines. Today, you got cheap fares, no customer service, no food, overbooked seating. You also got the unwashed, obese, drunk, and just plain disgusting. Don't believe me - go on Utube and look at airline travel in the 1960's and 70's - look at the people and how they are dressed. Oh yeah, only the alcohol was kept on board the aircraft.
 
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I hate flying anymore. A year ago we were delayed three hours on a flight to Vegas and only the bar there and bloody Mary's made it bearable for my brother and I. Got to Vegas and the rental car company was closed 0300 so had to rent from one open.
Year before my flight to Denver lost my bags but did return them later and even to my home.
This year my flight from Denver was delayed due to snow removal needed on the plane which I understood. What did tick me off was I had to stow my carry on ten seats ahead due to lack of available storage and when it was finally my turn to get off the plane it was gone and had to get it back from a passenger that thought it was her bosses or so she claimed.
I do miss the days when we dressed up in suits and traveled like it meant something.
 
I fly all the time, and there is no better way to travel. American merged with USAIR and hopefully in the next 90 days everything will be one. At least you got a soda! and a free condo at that.

Not sure where the "free soda" comes in, don't recall that happening(???) American is shutting down US Air, allegedly around October first. They bought US Air to cherry pick some routes and equipment but when it comes to service on US Air there was nothing American needed or wanted.

Flying used to be (many years ago), nothing but a treat that I looked forward to. The treatment passengers receive now is a joke... and guess who the joke is on. My best friend is a 20 year veteran commercial airline pilot. You ought to have a beverage or two with him and hear what they have to deal with... trust me while it explains a lot it won't make you feel any better/safer.

Another bit of stupidity by the consumers is how they dress for a flight. No, I no longer expect folks to dress up like they used to but about 50%+ of the people on our flights were wearing flip flops. Do you want to be behind some fool wearing flip flops as the entire plane tries to evacuate in an emergency? Come on folks, give it some thought. Bad things can and do happen so why make it worse?

Don't get me started on all of the folks who feel free to fly sick; coughing, hacking and wheezing with a cold, the flu or worse. Why the airlines even permit these idiots to board and spread their illness throughout the same recirculated air is beyond me.

Yep, commercial flying is now right at the top of my "Not to do list". This was definitely a self inflicted wound but not one I am likely to repeat.

As always... Opinions and YMMV.
 
The last time I flew was 2002. Took my wife on a cruise for our anniversary. Not only was there airport security, hassles and aggravation to deal with, but the whole mess started again when we reached the dock. By the time we finally stepped aboard the ship I was so mad that I was ready to turn right around and go back home. :mad::mad::mad:
It actually turned out to be a great vacation, but I'll never do it again.
 
During the 1980's and 90's I flew from west coast to east coast on a regular basis. The stupid questions were just getting started: Is there anything in your bag that you don't know about?

***......

I retired in 2000 and have only flown once - a have-to-case. Will NEVER do that again.

Idiots "in charge" of security are the biggest, most expensive, waste of money ever foisted upon the American public!!

ONE idiot attempts to blow up his shoe(?) and a billion travelers have had to remove their shoes in order to board an airplane!!

Anyone catch the TSA check testing on the news tonight?
NINETY-FIVE percent FAILURE rate..........

Just one more government joke . . . . I ain't laughing.
 
Anyone catch the TSA check testing on the news tonight?
NINETY-FIVE percent FAILURE rate..........

Just one more government joke . . . . I ain't laughing.

Yeah, that's gonna work real well on my forthcoming vacation flight.:mad:

Coming as I do from Europe I was staggered at the lax airport security in the US pre-9/11. Then that day came and I discovered you could take box cutters on a plane as a "tool of the trade". Yep, anything not to upset the business traveler.:rolleyes: Oh, and at least one congress-critter wants to allow them back on again.

Somebody else mentioned the huge "carry-ons" that the airline staff seem reluctant to stop folk using. That gets real funny when the next aircraft is a small turbo-prop puddle jumper with overhead bins the size of a car glovebox. Now the bag HAS to be checked and the owner throws a sulk worthy of a five year-old when you take away their favourite noisy toy.
 
Funniest story I ever heard was from a former coworker. He was in the military during the Vietnam war. He was sent overseas, back n the day it was ok to carry unloaded firearms on the plane, so he took his rifle with him. Walked onto the plane, stashed it in the coat closet, picked it up again when he landed. Repeat for the trip back.

The problem was the rules changed while he was gone. So he gets back is strolling through the airport with his cased rifle, and all of a sudden he is surrounded by police yelling at him, while he has no idea what the issue is.
 
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back in the early 1970's when you flew in uniform airlines like United and Braniff would automatically sit you in first class. I wonder if United would still do that?
 
With all the delays and getting to the airport early to "run the gauntlet", no direct flights which entitles a plane change after waiting normally a few more hours, my flying days are pretty much over. Add to the above all the things that were well enumerated by the OP that occur on the plane!

If I can drive it in 15 hours I will. Going to Florida from upper NYS for a couple weeks we drive. About the only thing I see as of now to make me fly is going to Alaska or Hawaii.
 
I fly to Mexico pretty regularly, usually commercial, occasionally private...
Private is better, oh Lordy, so much better. The stories I could tell about the raucous crowds southbound to Cabo San Lucas and the morbid, green and smelly flight back. Since I haven't flown drunk or with a hangover in well over ten years, sitting through it is often a pest, but I developed ways to deal with it.
I have three choices: American, United or Southwest. I'll quote a long dead outlaw for my opinion on the airlines: "I'll take hangin' to burnin' and shootin' to both, but not many bad men get a choice."
 
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A quick bit of googling shows that flying across the country cost the equivalent of about $1100 of today's money back in the era of Mad Men (1964). A first class round trip ticket to Hawaii (from Phoenix) is $1200. Interesting.
 
I just returned from a two week visit to Australia on the Qantas time machine. This was not my first flight with them and I'll say that, as modern airlines go, Qantas is unique in my experience. They actually make the trip as nice as 17 hours on an airplane can be.

All the rest of my travel stories pretty much parallel those of the OP and the others already mentioned.

Remember when people used to DRESS UP to fly?
 
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