The truth always comes out and it has in this thread. Agendas much? Just admit it, you're not fooling anyone.
I've never hidden my conservative views.
I've never hidden my conservative views.
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The media is spreading fear
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DeathGrip
US Veteran
Gotta go now, The Calvary is fixing to attack in the movie Fort Apache..and...I've got fresh fish to clean/cook
I'm watching it too.
RobertJ.
Member
We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blond
Who comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry
We can do the innuendo
We can dance and sing
When it's said and done
We haven't told you a thing
We all know that **** is king
Give us dirty laundry
Don Henley
He wrote this about 38 years ago, but it's as true today as it was then, if not more so.
Who comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry
We can do the innuendo
We can dance and sing
When it's said and done
We haven't told you a thing
We all know that **** is king
Give us dirty laundry
Don Henley
He wrote this about 38 years ago, but it's as true today as it was then, if not more so.
Absalom
SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
See, this is how it goes.
You just say stuff that's flat out not true. At best, because you actually believe it and have never bothered checking yourself, at worst because it gives your "argument" a zinger and you hope nobody else will check it.
Not surprisingly, all the major reality-based media are actually showing pretty impressive subscriber growth over the last few years after initial hiccups over transition to the digital format.
And as far as "agendas" go, of course news sources all have editorial slants which inevitably influence the reporting side too. The WSJ has a distinctly different tack than the NYT. But that is easy to understand, and if one reads such sources regularly, one can easily adjust conclusions for such. Even sources like MSNBC or FOX, which were specifically created to promote feel-good slant to one side or the other, can be useful if you watch them with critical distance.
Deuce Caboose
Member
My take on this: As a Senior, with multiple risk factors which clearly place me in the highest risk category, you can be assured that I place information regarding COVID-19 in the highest category of importance.
Since March the 30th, I have recorded daily, the death numbers for the country, the state, and the county in which I reside. The numbers are terrifying to say the least. It is the only statistic that matters.
But what is truly the most disturbing, are reports of medical ethicists providing a blueprint for who will be treated, given the limited resources when the surge hits. If that plan is put into place, and should I get this virus, well, things will not end up well.
If this is not daunting enough, my waking nightmare is the thought of not being able to be with and comfort, my mother, who, at 95 years of age, certainly deserves a better fate than this one.
No, dying alone was not in the cards.
But those are the facts on the ground.
Government managed healthcare: ya, lets go with that...
To those of us who understand, no explanation is needed.
To those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.
Since March the 30th, I have recorded daily, the death numbers for the country, the state, and the county in which I reside. The numbers are terrifying to say the least. It is the only statistic that matters.
But what is truly the most disturbing, are reports of medical ethicists providing a blueprint for who will be treated, given the limited resources when the surge hits. If that plan is put into place, and should I get this virus, well, things will not end up well.
If this is not daunting enough, my waking nightmare is the thought of not being able to be with and comfort, my mother, who, at 95 years of age, certainly deserves a better fate than this one.
No, dying alone was not in the cards.
But those are the facts on the ground.
Government managed healthcare: ya, lets go with that...
To those of us who understand, no explanation is needed.
To those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.
doublesharp
Member
Absalom says:
Not surprisingly, all the major reality-based media are actually showing pretty impressive subscriber growth over the last few years after initial hiccups over transition to the digital format.
BWAhahahaha!!!
Dude, did you read what you just wrote?
Not surprisingly, all the major reality-based media are actually showing pretty impressive subscriber growth over the last few years after initial hiccups over transition to the digital format.
BWAhahahaha!!!
Dude, did you read what you just wrote?
Seriously? Are you tracking those stats for auto accident fatalities too? And are you therefore NOT riding in cars? What about heart attack and other causes of death? Are those stats also the dominant force governing your life? Because if you look at them they are just as scary.
Or since those stats aren't getting published and harped on daily by the media do you just ignore them and go on about your merry way?
This thing has a lot of people scared. I get it. But saying that the number of dead "is the only statistic that matters" is taking it completely out of context and blowing it - and the fear of it - all out of proportion. No wonder, since that is exactly what the media is doing with it - and has been doing with it - all along. It's what they do.
Is it a serious issue/problem? YES.
Is the media sensationalizing and painting the most dire picture possible of the situation because it benefits their ratings? YES.
Are some attempting use it to their political advantage and/or to advance their political agenda? YES.
None of these 3 things are mutually exclusive.
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OK true but that has nothing to do with today.
Your are comparing final death tolls to an ON GOING event?. It is hard to prove a negative but what if, just WHAT IF. The actions being taken now are actually curtailing the spread and death of this virus?? Communication, health care and information are much better today then back then. Same as Hurricane reporting, people now have a advanced warning rather than just getting wiped out.
It is not over yet, the final tally is not in. The fat lady has not sung.
Of course the media over does it. They do on everything as the Don Henly song describes. No different on this event or any other. Read the important stuff and throw out the rest.
Globally1 610 909 confirmed (89 657) 99 690 deaths (6892)
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports/
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While the global pandemic lasted for two years, the vast majority of deaths were packed into three especially cruel months in the fall of 1918. Historians now believe that the fatal severity of the Spanish flu's "second wave" was caused by a mutated virus spread by wartime troop movements….
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… Harris believes that the rapid spread of Spanish flu in the fall of 1918 was at least partially to blame on public health officials unwilling to impose quarantines during wartime. In Britain, for example, a government official named Arthur Newsholme knew full well that a strict civilian lockdown was the best way to fight the spread of the highly contagious disease. But he wouldn't risk crippling the war effort by keeping munitions factory workers and other civilians home. ….
except from history.com
Why the Second Wave of the 1918 Spanish Flu Was So Deadly - HISTORY
While the global pandemic lasted for two years, the vast majority of deaths were packed into three especially cruel months in the fall of 1918. Historians now believe that the fatal severity of the Spanish flu's "second wave" was caused by a mutated virus spread by wartime troop movements….
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… Harris believes that the rapid spread of Spanish flu in the fall of 1918 was at least partially to blame on public health officials unwilling to impose quarantines during wartime. In Britain, for example, a government official named Arthur Newsholme knew full well that a strict civilian lockdown was the best way to fight the spread of the highly contagious disease. But he wouldn't risk crippling the war effort by keeping munitions factory workers and other civilians home. ….
except from history.com
Why the Second Wave of the 1918 Spanish Flu Was So Deadly - HISTORY
According to Aftonbladet that socialist utopia, Sweden, the one everyone points to as a perfect model is already saying that if your over 80 there's nothing we will do for you.
Aftonbladet is a Swedish daily newspaper published in Stockholm. It is one of the largest daily newspapers in the Nordic countries
That depends on who you are and how much money you have. Some are more equal than others.
LVSteve
Member
While I agree that the BBC got their reporting wrong, it does raise some points to consider.
1) The ramp up in burials was a result of the city morgues and undertakers clearing the decks to deal with COVID-19 deaths. For sure, no COVID-19 fatalities had been buried there as of the date of the linked article, 9 April. Remind me again why this is good news.
2) I find it interesting that the Hart Island drone footage was shown first (AFAIK) on the Spanish language channels here in the US and on the BBC news website. Was it on ABC. CBS etc? I don't know, because I rarely watch them. But if it wasn't, what the agenda there? Maybe to avoid panicking the population? Were they told not to by newscontrol.gov?
1) The ramp up in burials was a result of the city morgues and undertakers clearing the decks to deal with COVID-19 deaths. For sure, no COVID-19 fatalities had been buried there as of the date of the linked article, 9 April. Remind me again why this is good news.
2) I find it interesting that the Hart Island drone footage was shown first (AFAIK) on the Spanish language channels here in the US and on the BBC news website. Was it on ABC. CBS etc? I don't know, because I rarely watch them. But if it wasn't, what the agenda there? Maybe to avoid panicking the population? Were they told not to by newscontrol.gov?
Sistema1927
US Veteran
The good thing about the beer virus mania/hysteria/panic is that one does not hear much about global warming or more gun rights infringements (other than temporary closure of some shooting ranges).
Oh really?
The Pope says that the coronavirus is a response from our earth for global warming and other abuses. Others are jumping on the bandwagon.
In many states, like mine, guns stores are shuttered, and we have UBS (enacted last year by liberal dems). What can be a greater infringement than not being allowed to buy or trade a firearm?
Same nanny state governor changed the public health order at 5:30 PM, last night, just before Easter Sunday, banning any "mass gathering" of more than 5 at houses of worship, even if you could implement recommended social distancing procedures.
Deuce Caboose
Member
I will own, in its entirety, my post. It is seen through my filter, my analysis of the facts and my risk.
It's my opinion, that your apples and oranges comparison examples are just that. Your examples. Heart attacks and car fatalities never scared me. Still don't.
Of all the things I am, ignorant is certainly not one of them.
To live my life now, as you suggest, would hasten my demise.
Ignore the facts at your own peril.
If this approach gives you comfort, during this pandemic, so be it. Find comfort wherever you can.
Ask the people of Italy if this is media generated hysteria, or a political agenda driven narrative.
What part of 800+ deaths per day in New York State do you not understand?
I have lived my years, for the most part, without fear.
Being aware, and prepared to respond, has served me well.
Critical reasoning is the most valuable of life skills in my opinion. Even though I usually believe none of what I hear, and half of what I see, my situational awareness these days is way off the charts.
There is more than enough reason to track the COVID-19 death statistics, and for me, to act accordingly.
Your results may vary...
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