The Russians have gone in

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It will be interesting to see what Ukraine does over the next couple of months. One of their cabinet ministers suggested they would go on the offensive by mid-May to mid-June.

In a sense. Ukraine is "on the
offensive" already with its
strong counter-attacks which
have pushed the Russians back
in the eastern front.

Sometimes being the defensive
force is the best position to be
in, especially if while in defense
it's known just what the opponent
is doing or going to do.

That's where the intel so importantly
is a major factor.
 
In a sense. Ukraine is "on the
offensive" already with its
strong counter-attacks which
have pushed the Russians back
in the eastern front.

Sometimes being the defensive
force is the best position to be
in, especially if while in defense
it's known just what the opponent
is doing or going to do.

That's where the intel so importantly
is a major factor.

Excellent points, Uncle Ed. And you've reminded me of something here...

Ukraine is getting help from many other nations. Weapons, humanitarian aid, various supplies, training, intelligence, etc. Russia, so far as I know, is all alone. Even the other totalitarians on the world stage -- North Korea, China, etc. -- aren't touching this with a ten-foot pole.

It won't be easy, but I really think at this point the Ukrainians will prevail. The only questions are at what point will Putin throw in the towel, and what will that look like?
 
... The only questions are at what point will Putin throw in the towel, and what will that look like?

I just read about a news release from the Kremlin.

Apparently Putin has assured the leader of the separatist Luhansk region that he would never let them fall under Ukrainian rule again.

If the Russians feel that's newsworthy, it doesn't really communicate a lot of ambition and confidence anymore.
 
The only questions are at what point will Putin throw in the towel, and what will that look like?
I hope it's a fait accompli, as the Kerch Strait Bridge is dynamited from the Ukrainian held Crimean peninsula, and as the old Ukraine/Russia border posts in the Donbass raise the blue and yellow national flag, along with the EU flag, as a NATO member, while Russia's foreign held currency reserves are seized for rebuilding Ukraine.





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At some point puti will run out of men and weapons. Better sooner than later. I think his troops are out of motivation as well.

An interesting dynamic has developed here. The Russians, who started this war with what the whole world thought was an overwhelming advantage, and who certainly counted on a quick victory, have suffered nothing but setbacks for the last two months. They've apparently abandoned their initial objective of toppling the Ukrainian government, and are now struggling to advance in the small part of Ukraine they occupy.

The Ukrainians, in the meantime, have grown stronger, bolder, and more aggressive in their defense of their nation. Each battlefield victory seems to infuse them with more energy and more determination to prevail, and while Putin might not want to concede that, his military seems to realize it all too well.
 
I agree that the evolving status of the war favors an eventual NATO-supported Ukrainian victory.

I, too, fervently hope the Ukrainians will prevail, that the Russians will be soundly defeated, thoroughly weakened so that they can no longer threaten their neighbors, and serve as an unmistakable message to ambitious autocrats everywhere.

But I worry about Putin as a cornered rat with WMD/NBC weapons.
 
Read an article that implied ole Pute may " declare" his " goals" have been met and go on the " defense". That will simply give Ukrainians what they want, they will finish the Ruskies off. Consider all the Heavy artillery pieces Ukraine now has, let alone the A/C they will use. Russian anti air systems have already been figured out…
 
The Russian soldiers refusing to fight in Ukraine

Troops are saying no to officers, knowing that punishment is light while Russia is not technically at war

Guardian article here

"It soon became clear that not everyone was onboard with it. Many of us simply did not want to go back," said Dmitri, a member of the unit who asked not to be identified with his real name. "I want to return to my family – and not in a casket."

Along with eight others, Dmitri told his commanders that he refused to rejoin the invasion. "They were furious. But they eventually calmed down because there wasn't much they could do," he said...

...Under Russian military rules, troops who refuse to fight in Ukraine can face dismissal but cannot be prosecuted, said Mikhail Benyash, a lawyer who has been advising soldiers who choose that option.

Benyash said "hundreds and hundreds" of soldiers had been in touch with his team for advice on how they could avoid being sent to fight. Among them were 12 national guardsmen from Russia's southern city of Krasnodar who were fired after refusing to go to Ukraine...

Many soldiers, therefore, have chosen to be fired or transferred rather than going into "the meat grinder", he said.

A similar account to Dmitri's was given to the BBC's Russian service by Sergey Bokov, a 23-year-old soldier who at the end of April decided to leave the army after fighting in Ukraine. "Our commanders didn't even argue with us because we were not the first ones to leave," Bokov said...​
 
That is surprising. I would think they would be shot for insubordination?
 
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