The Russians have gone in

[Der Verminator]

Sure, exactly the same circumstances. Baghdad was still screwed when I left 2 years ago, and Kabul is screwed today. None of these were analogous to Russia invading South Ossetia, Crimea, nor Ukraine. Details matter.

They're exactly the same circumstances.

America, the most codependent nation in the world, is (as usual) sticking her nose in where it doesn't belong.

Was a disaster in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq and it's a disaster in Ukraine.

The weapons dealers get richer and the taxpayers get poorer.

And people die because of it.

That's our history and some of us don't appear to be learning from the mistakes of history.

 

[Der Verminator]

Der Verminator,

You seem to be obsessed with
money and costs. You mention
it in every post.

How long would the dollar last
abroad or here at home if a Putin
could successfully keep cowing
nation after nation?

Putin has his hands full dealing with one little backward nation.

Nation after nation?

Don't make me laugh.

 

[Chief Wiggums]

Well, like you, I only know what I hear about from TV news.

That's about all I know and all I know is what I hear from our own Media........which I know are not entirely trustworthy.

The media coverage in the US has been "poor" at its best.
many outlets (reddit & others) have provided daily /hourly updates pursuant to what is really happening. The contributors are from both sides, translations are provided.
The written and video entries are frequently difficult to read (due to the content) , and horrible to watch.

In closing, if you really want to know what is happening, the details are available.

 

[UncleEd]

Putin has his hands full dealing with one little backward nation.

Nation after nation?

Don't make me laugh.

I referred to an "a Putin" and
not the Ukraine situation THE
Putin has on his hand right now.

Besides, if Ukraine falls,
then success can breed success
in future aims and the ability to
attract like minded allies.

After all, Hitler at the outset
thought that Britain would fold
and it would join his merry band
of cut throats.

 

[biku324]

They're exactly the same circumstances.

America, the most codependent nation in the world, is (as usual) sticking her nose in where it doesn't belong.

Was a disaster in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq and it's a disaster in Ukraine.

The weapons dealers get richer and the taxpayers get poorer.

And people die because of it.

That's our history and some of us don't appear to be learning from the mistakes of history.

I see not one principle with which I agree. Isolationist tropes do not a policy make.

 

[Der Verminator]

if you really want to know what is happening, the details are available.

Good.

I like to look at as many sources as possible.

Got a link?

 

[Der Verminator]

I see not one principle with which I agree. Isolationist tropes do not a policy make.

Well, good.

We can agree to disagree.

I'm ok with that. Wouldn't be much discussion if we all agreed on everything.

 

[Der Verminator]

I referred to an "a Putin" and
not the Ukraine situation THE
Putin has on his hand right now.

Besides, if Ukraine falls,
then success can breed success
in future aims and the ability to
attract like minded allies.

After all, Hitler at the outset
thought that Britain would fold
and it would join his merry band
of cut throats.

Ukraine won't "fall" for many years.

It will likely be absorbed very slowly (and maybe never).

The "Domino Theory" has been proven to be a myth.

Putin is no Hitler. He barely has the military might to conquer a backward neighbor that is being propped up by the rest of the world.

 

[Chief Wiggums]

Good.

I like to look at as many sources as possible.

Got a link?

Reddit - Dive into anything
the site is comprised of "sub-forums"
contains everything from PGA golf-puppies and kittens-NASCAR - to war
look for RussiaUkraineWar2022

 

[Der Verminator]

Reddit - Dive into anything
the site is comprised of "sub-forums"
contains everything from PGA golf-puppies and kittens-NASCAR - to war
look for RussiaUkraineWar2022

Got it. Thanks. Never been to Reddit before.

I read about twenty stories and they seem to be the same stuff I see on CNN.

 

[Chief Wiggums]

I read about twenty stories and they seem to be the same stuff I see on CNN.

keep reading , you're not gonna find combat footage, executions and other unspeakables on CNN.

 

[venomballistics]

Blackouts reported around Zaporizhzhia.
Seems like they broke it.

 

[Der Verminator]

keep reading , you're not gonna find combat footage, executions and other unspeakables on CNN.

That may be because CNN has to investigate and confirm stories to be factual.

I do see combat footage on CNN and coverage of atrocities......even lots of that seems staged.

One thing you can count on in war........both sides constantly lie.

 

[Der Verminator]

Blackouts reported around Zaporizhzhia.
Seems like they broke it.

Well, it would not seem wise to let your enemy enjoy electric power, now would it?

 

[venomballistics]

Well, it would not seem wise to let your enemy enjoy electric power, now would it?

The blackouts affect the occupied regions.

 

[Der Verminator]

The blackouts affect the occupied regions.

Ah, then we know who caused the blackouts, don't we?

Those sneaky Ukes again.

 

[venomballistics]

Ah, then we know who caused the blackouts, don't we?

Those sneaky Ukes again.

still doesn't jive with analysis.
In the perimeter of the same general regions, the Russians have resumed air strikes, seemingly with impunity.
Ukrainian air defense is obviously down.

 

[venomballistics]

more news on it.

Confirmed: Metrics show a major disruption to communications at Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, Ukraine, amid Russian hostilities. The NPP has been completely disconnected from the grid for the first time in history per Energoatom

 

[Onomea]

Per this article, the Russians may be attempting to cut power to Ukraine and route it to Russian occupied territory. To do so would require a full shut down of the plant.

Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant disconnects from power grid after nearby fires - CNN

If the plant is now on its back up diesel generators, it is a dangerous situation.

 

[Der Verminator]

still doesn't jive with analysis.
In the perimeter of the same general regions, the Russians have resumed air strikes, seemingly with impunity.
Ukrainian air defense is obviously down.

Are you saying the Ruskies shut down power to the Ukies air defenses so they could bomb safely?

But wouldn't air defense systems have auxiliary power?