They just make it what they want it to be.

[Watchdog]

You know they aren't smart, or they wouldn't waste their time on a gun store. They would be hitting jewelers. Easier to carry, easier to hide, much more value.

In the gang culture, immediate access to firearms has more street value than jewelry. Having guns opens up many doors to other crimes.

 

[dswancutt]

In the gang culture, immediate access to firearms has more street value than jewelry. Having guns opens up many doors to other crimes.

Exactly, in 2007 a gang hit the Scheels store in Lincoln Neb and got over 30 guns. They recovered some, but they have turned up in Arizona and Mexico as late as last year.

 

[Texas Star]

The news here said the cops have three of those creeps in custody. I hope they get the others.

The mainstream media are showing this a lot. But what it really demonstrates is that crooks will get guns regardless of laws.

 

[jlrhiner]

WOW!! They should pass a law.

 

[bushmaster1313]

Burglary used to mean breaking and entering into a residence at night with intent to steal.

 

[JH1951]

Burglary used to mean breaking and entering into a residence at night with intent to steal.

It still does carry your definition in the true sense of the word. Unless you are working in law enforcement the definitions of specific words like that don't mean much any longer, and they are often incorrectly used and assumed to mean something that they don't. But, the incorrect use of many words still seems to get the message across. It has something to do with the way we are educating people today (or not doing so).

 

[StakeOut]

An S&W Chief I recovered from a DOA perp after a shootout at a motel by Kennedy Airport New York was part of a hijacked shipment that occurred 3 days earlier in Massachusetts.

A side note to this occurrence is that before this,NYPD bulletproof vests worn on the outside,were not marked with the word POLICE.

After this,at the insistence of the area commander who wanted to know if and how the perps knew we were police.the department issued heavy vests we wore at the time were marked with the word POLICE on the front and on the back.

 

[BC38]

Sorry if this seems rude, but what is new here?

Doesn't everyone realize the "press" spin and slant virtually every story to sensationalize, editorialize, and promote their point of view? I thought everyone knew and recognized that as a fact a long time ago. It's only been that way for the last 40 or 50 years.

Just like the thread about the story where two drug thugs were talking about Russian roulette, and one of them pulled out his semi-auto and popped the other one in the head.

The press called it two "teens" playing Russian roulette. Because a couple of kids playing with a gun and one of them getting shot makes a more attention-grabbing headline and matches their "evil guns" narrative and anti-gun agenda better than a headline saying that one drug dealer deliberately shot another drug dealer in the head.

 

[Jessie]

You have to know that if about any of our houses burned down there would be headlines about the " arsenal of weapons and hoards of ammo" that were found in the ashes.
UNLESS you happen to own a boat.

 

[Watchdog]

Burglary used to mean breaking and entering into a residence at night with intent to steal.

What was it called when it was done in the daytime?

 

[rwsmith]

That's why even without violence....

In the gang culture, immediate access to firearms has more street value than jewelry. Having guns opens up many doors to other crimes.

This wasn't 'violent' act but you know these guns will soon be involved in crimes......using guns.

 

[gman51]

I wonder will Armslist in Houston get a bunch of new ads posted? There have been several of the perps caught already due to the cameras inside the store. Some of the guns were recovered during the arrests. It will interesting to see how many start singing who the others are.
I imagine stealing guns is a federal crime so lengthy jail time should be the perps future. But they are just good kids that got involved with some bad people so they probably will get their wrists slapped.

 

[Texas Star]

The media had a police expert call their actions, "tactical" and well coordinated. Reminds me of those very pro jewelry store thieves in Europe.

I think we'll see more of this, especially if gun laws tighten.

 

[StakeOut]

When a event like this is repeated often on the local and national news copy cats are inspired to do it a bit better and have their deed make it to the 6 o'clock news.

Penal Codes probably differ according to jurisdiction and define what constitutes robbery,burglary and larceny.

In my training a burglary was the taking of property from an unoccupied building no matter the time of day.

Once you have a forcible taking from a person the crime escalates to robbery.

If the unlawful taking is from a fenced or unfenced area or the taking without force is from a place inside a building where the public has legal access(supermarket,department store etc) then the crime is larceny.

 

[NYlakesider]

I wonder will Armslist in Houston get a bunch of new ads posted? There have been several of the perps caught already due to the cameras inside the store. Some of the guns were recovered during the arrests. It will interesting to see how many start singing who the others are.
I imagine stealing guns is a federal crime so lengthy jail time should be the perps future. But they are just good kids that got involved with some bad people so they probably will get their wrists slapped.

Well in the peoples republic of NY, most time the first thing pleaded down or not pushed by the DAs is possession of a gun.

Considering how draconian our gun laws are you think they would use "Guns'' to the max---BUT NO. Then like clockwork some legislature pushes for more common sense gun control!

 

[the ringo kid]

I wonder if any of these ''darlings'' managed to get cut on any broken glass--thus leaving DNA evidence behind?

 

[speedyquad]

No worries, I'm sure there was a 4473 filled out by every one of them.

Seriously though, I'm surprised that we don't hear of this more often.

 

[Watchdog]

Seriously though, I'm surprised that we don't hear of this more often.

We will.

Matter of fact, it already has happened again. Interestingly enough, it's being called a robbery and a burglary. So all the wordsmiths around here can debate which one it really was. Maybe we should hyphenate it, like make it a burglary-robbery. That should satisfy everyone.

This type of crime has been happening around here with disturbing regularity. Just recently, an LGS that does a lot of transfers for the Cabela's just across the SC state line was broken into and burglarized-robbed. Before the Houston event, an LGS in a neighboring county was burglarized-robbed using the truck-through-the-front-door method.

So nothing really new about the Houston event, except it was extremely well documented by security cameras.

 

[Watchdog]

Smash and grab is an old tactic.

Yes, it is. What makes it worse is that some gun stores make it easy for the criminals.

There's a shop in my town. You walk in the door, and twenty-five feet to the left, all the ARs and tactical shotguns are in one section, on two shelves. No cable through trigger guards, no trigger locks, no nothing. You could be in and out in less than two minutes with at least thirty high end weapons and magazines if you used enough thugs to carry the stuff out.

If you'd taken time to scout out the location beforehand, directly across the road from the shop is a rabbit warren of streets, all of which feed into a major north-south-east-west interstate exchange. A criminal could reach that exchange in five minutes driving at the speed limit...then just be gone...probably exactly like in one of those bad action movies. And no Arnold or Sly or Vin around to chase you.

 

[Biginge]

Why nitpick over semantics? The violence was in the manner of the break-in. It certainly wasn't carried out in a calm or sedate manner. I sure don't see any of the robbers/burglars strolling in and out of the gun store like they're shopping at Cabela's or something.

Robbery is a synonym for burglary, and vice versa. Both mean something belonging to someone else was stolen. A robbery does not require a human victim, and neither does a burglary.

Not splitting hairs but the underlying current of my post is that the liberal media says and prints what they like. Most always in the direction they want to steer an agenda.

"Violent Robbery of a gun store" has a bit of a slant to the gun brabbers agenda don't you think? "See Martha, i been tellin ya, if that gun store weren't there them cooks wouldn't be stealin."

Yep, as I said in original post "They make it what they want it to be." Follow it as you choose.