They kill a White Buffalo on Ted Nugents TV Show

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A little while ago I was at my hunting cabin in Pa. It was a rainy day so I dicided to watch some TV. Ted Nugent's show The Spirit of the wild was on. The show theme was The White Buffalo. A hunter with Ted was going to kill the White Buffalo with a Modern rifle chambered in .28 Nosler. They go to the field that the White Buffalo is feeding in, and there the exicute it. During the show I thought to myself. Why would anybody want to kill this great animal? How can you have pride in something that was not very difficult to do? Again Why? I am 63 years old, and have been a Big Game hunter. My life dream was to hunt a Kodiak bear. Which I did as a young man. I also went to Africa to hunt my second life dream the Lion. It was perhaps the most frieghting thing that I have done. I have also hunted all through North America. I am not bragging on this. I just want to let it be known that I am a hunter! I don't do any more Big Game hunting, other then White Tailed deer. My family enjoys the meat. I would be interested in commets on this.
 
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I am only 71 but have spent less than 20 minutes watching hunting shows on TV. You might do well to do the same. IMO, many "hunts" for those who pay, especially for bragging or promotion, are under high fence or game farm conditions. As a life long rural westerner, Buffalo/Bison do not exist outside of a very few locations that are not farmed to sell or shoot.
 
A little while ago I was at my hunting cabin in Pa. It was a rainy day so I dicided to watch some TV. Ted Nugent's show The Spirit of the wild was on. The show theme was The White Buffalo. A hunter with Ted was going to kill the White Buffalo with a Modern rifle chambered in .28 Nosler. They go to the field that the White Buffalo is feeding in, and there the exicute it. During the show I thought to myself. Why would anybody want to kill this great animal? How can you have pride in something that was not very difficult to do? Again Why? I am 63 years old, and have been a Big Game hunter. My life dream was to hunt a Kodiak bear. Which I did as a young man. I also went to Africa to hunt my second life dream the Lion. It was perhaps the most frieghting thing that I have done. I have also hunted all through North America. I am not bragging on this. I just want to let it be known that I am a hunter! I don't do any more Big Game hunting, other then White Tailed deer. My family enjoys the meat. I would be interested in commets on this.

Did you eat the bear and lion, or just kill them to say you did?
 
I call them Pet N' Shoots. There not for me, but to each there own. I cant watch a minute of those hunting shows on TV...there usually some bubba all decked out in camo sitting in a big plywood box waiting for something to walk over to an automatic feeder. Oh yea...lots of skill needed for that.
 
I'm envious of the people that have the time and energy to waste on these things. Both the hunter and those fretting about it.
 
I grew up deer hunting in New England, I always got a laugh out of the anti-hunting dimwits who assumed we were just running through the woods mowing down Bambi left and right. I wouldn't feel right about being driven to a field, handed a rifle, and then shooting an animal just to say I'd done it. Taking the shot was always the smallest part of hunting to me, the rest of it was just as, if not more important than getting the kill. We had a 1-deer limit, and I strongly suspect my Dad let a few go early in the season over the years because he didn't want to have to sit the rest out!
 
Wood714. Yes, I did eat the kodiak bear. I have always enjoyed bear meat! I did ask to have them cook up some lion for me. But, they told me it was reseved for the local tribe.

How many Lions are left in the Wild? As many exotic animals they are listed as vulnerable. As for bears they are doing OK

Never understood the hunting of such magnificent animals.?
Not against hunting game animals.
No, I see no reason to kill a White Buffalo/Bison. Look what we did to them years ago, wiped out thousands just for fun
Man has a unique way of destroying our own environment we hunt almost to extinction..

Nugent wrote a song of the White Buffalo, I think there may be more to the TV show they we know

 
It's one of those topics that has unfortunately become polarized. It didn't used to be that way 40 years ago.

People seem to think you have to either fully support something or you oppose it. It goes hand in hand with thinking that something is an "inalienable right" and that because it is a right, it does not come with a commensurate obligation to wield that right responsibly and with appropriate respect for the rights of others. The fact that rights and responsibilities go hand in hand has been a basic tenet of western civilization. if you separate one from the other you inevitably have abuse of that right.

In terms of hunting that attitude quickly devolves to "if it's legal, it's ethical", and there for "ok". That ignores all the subtle nuances that use to comprise "ethics" and balancing different and often conflicting things against one another to come up with the best overall solution. Now? It's just "screw you, I got mine". If you think about it's what's at the heart of just about all of this country's problems.

Hunting has a definite role in wild life management, and I am a staunch advocate of wild life management practices that use hunting with limits an rules designed to improve the over all health and sustainability of the population. And yet I see more and more irresponsible hunters doing unethical things, skirting or playing fast and loose with the rules, making inhumane kills, leaving wounded game in the field, etc. - and not even seeing what's wrong with the *way* in which they are hunting.

If you call them on it they start whining about their "rights" and or that it's legal so they can do it, and that if you disagree you're obviously a/an (insert slur here). It's a response devoid of responsibility, ethics or consideration for the rights of others, and usually signals a total unawareness or uncaring attitude toward the bigger picture.

As for shooting a white buffalo, sure the owner has a right to make a buck. But selling a very rare genetic specimen that is also revered as a cultural icon, to a hunter on a canned hunt, is at best insensitive, if not just plain stupid. He could have sold it to a tribal government - or donated it and taken a tax credit - and gotten a better return on his investment. We used to work with a tribal grazing association. A white buffalo is an opportunity to secure additional and or longer term grazing rights. At a minimum it buys you and your operation a huge amount of good well and future support.

For the hunter? Oh boy! I get to shoot a farm animal! What a thrill.

I was raised on a ranch. We called that "Tuesday". We'd shoot a steer in the brain with a .22 Magnum, lift it up with the same bucket loader we'd fed bales of hay to the cattle in the winter, gut it, skin it, and butcher it. It never occurred to us to brag about shooting a 1200 pound domesticated animal. We were more likely to brag on the exceptional quality grass raised and corn supplemented, excellent flavored, well marbled meat we produced.

A canned buffalo hunt is right up there with the guys shooting black bears over bait, and then having them mounted in some fierce standing on two legs pose, like it was some sort of dangerous game, shot while charging the brave, intrepid hunter.
 
I used to hunt with handguns with my father years ago. Antelope, black bear, wild boar, deer, etc. I no longer hunt. My dad is long gone, but the memories will always be there. I do not apologize or feel bad for my experiences. I had my day and wouldn't trade it for anything. I continue to be pro ethical hunting. It's a funny thing as I despise jacking animals (unless they're your food source), but have no problem wiping out hog populations. In my mind, I could have shot a lion back in the day, but never an elephant. It's sort of a warped Bambi syndrome.
 
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I would like to thank everyone for there post. An emotional subject that has different views. Countycruz, I have read that a White Buffalo is perhaps one in a million or even one in ten million. I was not aware that they are common today. BB57 I enjoyed your post, and concur with your thoughts.
 
90% of today’s “hunters” are just guys who sit it a stand and execute deer, bear, boar etc. Not exactly fair chase. Thermo scopes, silencers, electronics of all kinds. Most aren’t capable of field dressing their own kill.
White Buffalo, yea it was a menu item from some game farm.
 
90% of today’s “hunters” are just guys who sit it a stand and execute deer, bear, boar etc. Not exactly fair chase. Thermo scopes, silencers, electronics of all kinds. Most aren’t capable of field dressing their own kill.
White Buffalo, yea it was a menu item from some game farm.

It's been several years ago now, but I was working up loads on my land, well into my property, when a couple guys showed up concerned that I might shoot their dogs. Apparently, they thought the "no trespassing" sign in the driveway didn't apply to them. I clarified, that they were:
- trespassing on my land;
- could clearly see the target 5' off the ground 200 yards downrange, and could see the tiny groups if they cared to look through my spotting scope;
- that they would not *under any circumstances* shoot any deer on my land, as it was posted and conveniently bounded by roads so there would be no mistake; and
- that he was leaving now.

I am not pro dog hunting. It is not in my opinion a fair chase situation given how its done here in eastern NC. Dog hunters will disagree and claim they can't get into some of the swamps and brush where some deer may be. The reality is however that those deer eat and prefer to eat in cultivated fields, and with some reasonable scouting and preparation a traditional stand or stalk works just fine.

Don't get me started how many of them treat their dogs. They will be the first to point out how much the dogs like to hunt. Sure, they do. It's the only time the dogs are off the chain and free to run.
 
Learning more about the White buffalo. I have found that in the wild they are very rare perhaps one in 10 Million. Game farms have been breeding them with white cattle, Chaolairs to produce white calfs. This practice is fround apond. However I found a web site from 2022. Ox Ranch in Texas that states that they have 15. They charge hunting fees per day plus, a trophy fee of $17,500! I would have to think this is what I saw on Ted Nugents TV show. A half white cow, and half buffalo. Well it has been said that money is the root to all evil!
 
It’s the Love of Money!
Repeat - my Colorado buddy Jim Jenkins once had a ranch up in Wyoming.
His neighbor had a buffalo herd and offered Buffalo hunting.
So one day, Jim was down in a meadow working hay, he saw movement on the ridge.
It was his neighbor and his Buffalo hunters. They were glassing for Buffalo.
The neighbor was using Jim’s ranch as an extension of the buffalo range.
He knew exactly where the buffalo were, he was just trying to extend the ‘hunt’ and make it look like a real hunt.
Have you thought about roaming?
‘All the time. Take a look at that fence!’
Should have mentioned- this guy is Native American owned.
Sandia Pueblo, just North of here. They came from a herd of Buffs on Ft. Wingate, near Gallup, NM.
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