Thompson 1928 A1

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I recently had the chance to acquire at an auction a WWII Savage built Thompson 1928 A1, most likely manufactured very late 1941 or early 1942.

I bought it at an auction, cost 2200 Swiss francs (abt the same in US$). The modern semi auto only version is sold for 2700 here, so it was an easy decision for me.

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It also came with two stick mags, 20 and 30 rounds

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Sweet. Does it work?

I don't know Swiss gun laws. In England you could buy it, but it would have to be deactivated - thus my "does it work" wonder.

2200. Wow. You say it came with a XX and a XXX stick. Does that mean that the L drum in the top pix did not come with it? That drum, by the way, here would easily be five hundred to a thousand dollars, just by itself.

The Savage 28s, while not as desirable as the Colt 21s, are extremely good guns. And the finned barrel is a plus. The later Savages had smooth barrels.

One came in the shop a few years ago. It had been part of shipment on its way to Cuba, and was found by our Sheriff in '61. He told his deputies that, if anybody wanted something, just take it. The deputy that took it registered it in our last amnesty. The man that owned it a few years ago was a city official that had been indited for taking bribes (and a few other things). His son brought it in. "Daddy is going to jail. I know it, he knows it, everyone knows it. So he won't be able to own guns, so we need to sell this." He wanted ten grand, but unfortunately I did not have it. So I convinced myself I did not need that Savage, since I already had a West Hurley.
 
Don't know if you are aware or not. Notice the drum says WIND 9 OR 11 CLICKS?

That's because the 21 and the 28 have different cyclic rates. The faster 21 needs the spring wound 11 clicks, so the magazine feed can keep up. With your 28, only wind it 9.
 
Congratulations.
You got the real deal.
There's nothing like the feel and sound of a Thompson.

Use only FMJ ammo though.
A friend had been shooting RN lead through his M1 Thompson fine.
When he shot it through the 28, the lube clogged the Cutts compensator.
 
Had a friend that was in Canton Bern and he brought me to a gunshop near Lucern, On the way to the store he explained Swiss gun laws which are kind of like American gun laws prior to the GCA of 1968, Suppressors, full auto , SBR all right there on the racks.

On the way my wife said, "You know most Swiss men are in the army and bring their military assault rifles home keeping them in the closet right ?"

they sure did.
 
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Sweet. Does it work?

I don't know Swiss gun laws. In England you could buy it, but it would have to be deactivated - thus my "does it work" wonder.

2200. Wow. You say it came with a XX and a XXX stick. Does that mean that the L drum in the top pix did not come with it? That drum, by the way, here would easily be five hundred to a thousand dollars, just by itself.

The Savage 28s, while not as desirable as the Colt 21s, are extremely good guns. And the finned barrel is a plus. The later Savages had smooth barrels.

One came in the shop a few years ago. It had been part of shipment on its way to Cuba, and was found by our Sheriff in '61. He told his deputies that, if anybody wanted something, just take it. The deputy that took it registered it in our last amnesty. The man that owned it a few years ago was a city official that had been indited for taking bribes (and a few other things). His son brought it in. "Daddy is going to jail. I know it, he knows it, everyone knows it. So he won't be able to own guns, so we need to sell this." He wanted ten grand, but unfortunately I did not have it. So I convinced myself I did not need that Savage, since I already had a West Hurley.

It WILL work. Unfortunately there are a few pieces missing which I discovered when I field stripped it: hammer, hammer pin, recoil spring and firing pin spring. The seller (auction house) is checking with the original owner. Otherwise they will procure those parts and send them to me.

It came with the three mags, the 50 rds L drum and both stick mags (they came in a seperate package with some UZI mags I bought).

Switzerland is a gun country, with a militia army and a solid tradition of shooting, with service rifles being kept at home, and available to soldiers when they finish their service for a very modest fee (full autos being converted to semi auto only).

Swiss attics are full of K11 & 31, Sig 510 & 550, as well as the whole array of Swiss issue handguns. A guy at the local range just bought a Sig P 210 army for 500.-

As to full auto weapons, unlike the US (1986 act?), they are all legal to own under certain circumstances (sizeable collection, serious security and safe storage) but very difficult to shoot. You have to ask for a special permit for a specific date (cost 150.-) and a range that agrees. Not easy.

So there is a good supply of all kinds of full auto weapons, old and new (M16, AK 47, HK G33 & MP5, Glock 18, Sten, UZI, modern SIGs etc) at reasonable prices (typically 2 to 3 grands).

Cool story, expecially with the Cuba connection (I just contributed to a post on Cuba Thompsons on machinegunboards).

In hindsight I guess you should have sold the West Hurley and bought the Savage.
 
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Don't know if you are aware or not. Notice the drum says WIND 9 OR 11 CLICKS?

That's because the 21 and the 28 have different cyclic rates. The faster 21 needs the spring wound 11 clicks, so the magazine feed can keep up. With your 28, only wind it 9.

I was not aware, and I wondered why 9 OR 11 clicks, so thanks for that valuable info (still have to learn how to grease the thing).
 
I recently had the chance to acquire at an auction a WWII Savage built Thompson 1928 A1, most likely manufactured very late 1941 or early 1942.

The majority of gun fanciers in this country will never have a chance to fire something like that, much less own one and keep it in their home.

It is beautiful, scratches, dings and all. Congratulations on your purchase.
 
Soooooooooo jealous! The Thompson is my dream firearm, and in my opinion, the perfect home defense weapon.

I've been fortunate enough to fire one on a couple occasions during range trips in Las Vegas. Our local range might have one to shoot now also. But it's expensive to shoot here.

Owning one is just not practical as they tend to run $25,000+ here in the states. . . assuming you live in a state where its allowed at all.

Congrats on your purchase! $150 to shoot it does suck. But at least you have the option.
 
I just read that You have to get a $150 permit EACH time You want to fire the Gun Full Auto.The Permit is only good for One Day at a certain Time,I knew there was a catch....:(

There is a catch indeed. This easy to get / hard to use has discouraged me from buying flocks of full auto weapons. You can find full auto Kalashnikov (700.- to 1500.-), M16 (2-2500.-), HK MP5 (3-8'000.-) or G33 (2200.-), Glock 18 (2000.-), Galil (2000.-), Sig 551 or 751 (2200-3200) etc ... But you can hardly use them.

And I like to use my toys, not really into safe queens.

Still need a permit to acquire a full-auto, but it is fairly easy and takes abt. 2 months.
 
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In hindsight I guess you should have sold the West Hurley and bought the Savage.

Yeah, I've thought that on occasion. His, however, had the smooth barrel and the L-rear sight. At least my WH has the Lyman sight and the Cutts.

Don't forget to keep the felts oily. It runs better that way.

By that I mean the felt pads on this thing. It's called a "breech oiler".
 

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Do you need one to "fire full auto" or to fire EACH full auto?

If you wanted to take your Thompson and your Beretta 93 to the range, on the same trip, and shoot them both, would it take TWO 150 franc permits?
 

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